Great New Book on Rod Coronado and the Animal Liberation Front–Review it!

I think the profits from this book should go to help pay back the victims of Rods terrorism.

I think the profits from fur farms should go to the victims of their terrorism. Oh, wait, they’re already dead! Let’s give it to ALF, ELF, EF!, and Sea Shepherd instead.

Joe, there is a school of thought that Mr Coranado’s action were the payback, and that the real victims in this case were those terrorized by the fur farmers. That the “terrorists” actions were legal does not make them “right”. It merely shows that we live in a society were barbarism is legitamized, and that is wrong.

thanks for the info about the book but I’m a student and found it way cheaper used…but from what i understand about royalties, the author is only missing out on 9% of the sale price so that’s less than $1.65 based on Amazon price. I wish this book was available at the library but it wasn’t so I had to do my american duty and consume.

BTW, it’s an interesting question whether or not supporting an author or say give money to COK for pro veg commercials is more important, assuming of course it’s an either/or decision.

just watched “behind the mask” and it was amazing to see what Rod has accomplished.

and *ahem* speaking of animal rights books, since you’re so keen on supporting living authors, i just published what i hope will become the “johnny got his gun” of animal rights. it’s available here:

http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/hector/7496651

yes yes shameless plug. i apologize.

I’m happy I could astound you, L. I, on the other hand, am never at all surprised when I see folks like yourself worried about public relations as if it’s going to make any difference to the existence of fur farms or people eating animals. Despite your statement of your opinion as fact, I and many other people think there’s a huge difference between wearing fur and eating an animal, just as there can be huge differences within each behavior depending on circumstances.

It would be nice if you could keep my statement in the context of the conversation with Joe, but even if you did we’d probably still disagree. Incidentally, my review of the book was the first one on Amazon and you can read a different version of it in which I write that arson is not something I’d personally be comfortable doing by clicking on the link for this post.

Should there be a comma after THINK or is that a new slogan of the anti-animal folks? Too bad Up With People was already taken.

I just received the book from Amazon. Haven’t had time to start the book but can hardly wait. I think next time I’ll go to a book store. I had no idea that Amazon sold, Foie Gras.
We are not terrorists!!! We are Freedom Fighters, fighting for the freedom of the innocent and voiceless sentient beings.
We’re suppose to be their caretakers, not their executioners..Watch what happens in a slaughterhouse, the humans are terrorizing the animals, murdering them. Anyone who disagrees with this is a bully.. Bullies don’t belong on this earth.
Whatever it takes…..

TO L:
“I’m concerned with comments like “every fur farmer deserves to be terrorized”. The ignorance expressed therein is astounding. If we’re going to “terrorize” fur farmers why not “terrorize” everyone who eats animals (99 percent of the population)? Because really, what’s the moral difference between a fur farmer and farmer who raises and kills animals for food or a person who eats animals because they like the taste? There is no significant difference. People really need to check themselves here.”
When you say that there is no significant difference between a fur farmer and someone who eats meet I think that you’re missing one major difference. The difference is the amount of force needed to stop them versus what you would gain from said force.
According to the Department of Agriculture, in 2008 there were 247 mink farms in the US. That’s not a very large number. Do what it takes to convince 247 people that they need to seek out a new way to make a living and it’s done. Regardless of whether they “see the error of their ways” or they think they were “put out of business by those damn eco-terrorists”, it doesn’t matter. 247 people walk away from their line of work and you’ve DESTROYED the fur industry in North America.
On the other side, convince 247 people to give up meat and you haven’t even made the slightest dent in the meat industry. It’s a matter of leverage. If you WERE going to use force against the meat industry, you’d have to be a moron to think that the most effective targets would be average meat eating people. The worth while targets would be on the supply end, not on the demand end….the people responsible for raising and killing animals for food.

L,
“Are you that naive to believe if you shut down one fur farm that the business will not just move to another location?”
You successfully missed the entire point of my post. I was not talking about closing down ONE fur farm, which obviously would have hardly any effect on the industry. I was responding to your question about why someone would target a fur farmer versus “average guy on the street” type meat eaters…the idea being that since both of them are responsible for the exploitation and killing of animals that they both would warrant the same tactics.
My point was that the ENTIRE mink industry in the US relies on the 247 people who raise mink for a living, and that 247 is not really that large of a number if there were a group of people who were inclined to “get their hands dirty”, so to speak.
My point, then, was to say that if your concern was the consumption of meat, and you had limited resources and limited man power (or woman power for that matter) the use of force would more effective if you were to use it against the owners of a factory farm or slaughterhouse than to their millions of individual customers.
At the end of the day, I don’t see this as an either/or type situation. Education and vegan outreach are monumentally important, and OF COURSE it is important to use that outreach to lower (and eventually end) the general populations demand for products made from the exploitation of animals. At the same time, there are people who do not respond to reason, and no mater how many conversations we have with them, or pamphlets we give them, or how many time we show them “Earthlings”, they are STILL going to see animals as property. and they are still going to raise animals to kill and eat. And they are still going to strap animals to tables and cut them open without anesthesia and implant electrodes in their brains.
Some people desire only money and power. The only way to stop them is to attack their ability to make a profit from the suffering of animals, and if power and force are the only things they respect, I have no sympathy for them when they wind up on the receiving end of what they dish out every day.
This is getting a bit long, so I’m going to end it here. The truth is that no one here is going to change anyone’s mind about what they feel are “acceptable” tactics. I just wish that we as a movement would spend more of our energy attacking (the word “attacking” is not used in a violent sense here…I mean everything from leafleting to civil disobedience to militant direct action) the people who are out there killing animals and a little less time and energy attacking each other.

I am still on the line doing something none of you is doing….savingthe environment! GW, I will be home sometime this week maybe you could explain those very intellectual words (sick,stupid,fucking and whore) to me? I looked up asshole but all I found was a photo of you.

Will, thanks again for recommending this book. I loved it!
Here’s my review:
http://diggingthroughthedirt.blogspot.com/2009/09/operation-bite-back-must-read-for-ar.html