The weapons of terrorists?

The weapons of terrorists?

It was only a matter of time. Since the passage of the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a sweeping new law labeling animal rights activists as “terrorists,” corporations and industry groups have been pushing the federal government to use their new powers. For more than two years, the law has sat on the shelf. The government has finally put it to use.

On February 19th and 20th, the Joint Terrorism Task Force of the FBI arrested four animal rights activists as “terrorists.” Details of the arrests and the charges are still coming, but based on my conversations with attorneys and local news articles, this is the most sweeping expansion of the War on Terrorism and the “Green Scare” to date.

As background, a fierce campaign is being waged in California against animal research at the University of California system. There has been a wide range of both legal and illegal tactics. Illegal tactics have included the destruction of UC vans. In August, an incendiary device was left at the home of a UC researcher; no animal rights group has claimed responsibility for this crime, but the university, the FBI and others have recklessly attributed it to activists.

These “terrorism” arrests are not related to that bombing, though. And they’re also not related to the destruction of property. These activists–Nathan Pope, Adriana Stumpo, Joseph Buddenberg, and Maryam Khajavi– were arrested for First Amendment activity.

My calls to the FBI for a copy of the indictment have not been returned, and attorneys I’ve contacted have not viewed it either. However, the FBI’s press release notes that the activists are facing four charges, and lists four incidents. They include:

  • Protesting outside the home of a University of California Berkeley professor. Some activists, “wearing bandanas to hide their faces, trespassed on his front yard, chanted slogans, and accused him of being a murderer because of his use of animals in research.”
  • At another protest, activists “marched, chanted, and chalked defamatory comments on the public sidewalks in front of the residences.”
  • At one protest, a group of five or six activists allegedly “attempted to forcibly enter the private home of a University of California researcher in Santa Cruz.”
  • Fliers titled “Murderers and torturers alive & well in Santa Cruz July 2008 edition” were found at a local coffee shop. They listed the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of several researchers. The fliers said “animal abusers everywhere beware we know where you live we know where you work we will never back down until you end your abuse.” The FBI says three of the defendants are tied to the “production and distribution of the fliers.”

Chalking, leafleting and protesting are not terrorism, they are not property crimes, and they are not violent crimes. They are speech. Unlike real terrorists, these defendants are not accused of arming themselves with bombs or machine guns. Their only weapons are words.

The only allegation of possible criminal activity is the FBI’s mention of a forced entry. The details of that incident are unclear, though. For instance, at many lawful home protests in the past, activists have been attacked by the people they are protesting who, understandably, are not happy about a demonstration right outside their front door. In short, the very worst element of the entire set of allegations is nowhere near any reasonable person’s threshold for what constitutes “terrorism.”

When I testified before Congress about the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, I was attacked by supporters of the bill, including Democrats, who said the law would only be used to go after groups like the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front. I argued that the vague and overly broad wording in the law could be used by an ambitious prosecutor or federal agents to target First Amendment activity. Eerily, the hypothetical case I described is identical to the recent arrests. I wrote in my analysis of the AETA in 2006:

Here’s a very likely scenario: A group of activists holds a loud protest outside an executive’s home or office on a daily basis, as part of a national campaign. Activists yell and chant as people enter the building. Some wear masks or bandanas (which are increasingly common at protests, because activists fear being “blacklisted”). There have also been illegal actions like “vandalism” and “property damage” in the name of the same cause (which has been the case in every social movement, ever).

Activists clearly intend to “interfere with” the operations of animal enterprise. Toss in the climate of fear that industry groups have created, plus the raucous nature of the protest and the fact that it’s part of a coordinated campaign, and suddenly this First Amendment activity becomes “terrorism” under the law (through a “course of conduct” involving harassment, intimidation, vandalism… whatever they can get to stick).

This is, verbatim, what the FBI and prosecutors are alleging in this case. These arrests dispel each and every myth by corporations and the politicians who represent them, and make strikingly clear that the true purpose of the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act was never to target underground activists. It was passed in order to chill and overtly silence First Amendment activity.

The government is chipping away at fringe elements, silencing the speech of so-called radicals as “terrorists.” But this is not the end, it is the beginning. Such an overt targeting of First Amendment activity puts every social movement, every activist, and every American at risk. Targeting free speech as “animal enterprise terrorism” sets a precedent set for targeting the speech of other activists as “defense enterprise terrorism,” “timber enterprise terrorism,” and “financial enterprise terrorism.”

At issue here is not the validity or morality of animal research, nor is it the efficacy of controversial tactics. Differences of opinion on those issues no longer matter. What’s at issue is whether the War on Terrorism should be used to target protesters as terrorists.

The true test of the health of the First Amendment, and basic freedoms in a democracy, is not whether safe, non-controversial, popular beliefs are protected. The test is whether the extreme, the radical, the outlandish, the offensive and the crude are protected.

When it comes to freedom of speech, the battleground–the front line–must be protecting the fringe.

UPDATE: Information on prisoner support.

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  • Stephen
    When is the trial?

    I would say that animal rights protesters and their supporters seem to come dangerously close to treating animals as if they are equal to humans, but as they honestly seem to believe that I will take a different tack.

    It has been said that these professors who practice vivisection ( a process I find cruel and unnecessary) deserve direct intimidation because of what they have done. So, taking the assumption that humans and animals are equal, suppose you were to have a chicken which developed the cruel and unusual habit of laying its eggs on the heads of whatever animal walked underneath it. (this is of course a free range chicken, so its doing so from on top of your hay bales) What do you do to it?
    booby trap the bale so that it explodes when it next tries its trick? Drop eggs on its head repeatedly until it gets the message?
    follow it around and point a gun at it?
    or just tell it off every time you catch it?

    Were you to also keep a cat, which one day approached the hens and killed a brood of chicks. What do you do then?

    bringing this back to the point, these arrests are quite possibly justified, but the declaration of these people as "terrorists" is misleading. However, protests hold no force unless the people who are being protested against feel they have something that is being threatened by these people, be it sales revenue or votes. But individuals who work at locations shouldn't be threatened; its not effective. It just reduces the value of the argument in they eyes of those being threatened.
  • If publicizing names and addresses of people you don't like is criminal, wouldn't the FBI have gone after the anti-abortion movement more vigorously? Hell, I can think of 3 anti-abortion sites off the top of my head that not only list names and addresses of doctors, but the names and addresses of the schools their kids attend!

    Oh, wait... Trying to claim right-wing groups as terrorists (such as the leaked DHS memo earlier this year) gets the whole country up in arms. Can't have any of that. I guess they'll just stick with the groups that are guilty of nothing more than property damage and let the real murderers go about their business.
  • David
    They should say sorry and clean up their own meses.
  • Flu-Bird
    Make them clean up the messes they make and they should pay for the clean up as well
  • Anonymous
    I think vegans are all killers. I hope all vegans stop murdering plants. They keep eating plants like there's an infinite supply of living plants. Eating plants is really killing this planet (so is farming crops/vegetables at any scale). So please, stop murdering planets' living organism. Just because plants don't have brain, it doesn't mean there's no spirit driving their life. You have no right to devalue their spiritual value. So stop the massacre. Stop the killing. Stop harvesting. Plants LIVING on earth are not yours.
  • Anonymous
    Enough of your mental masturbation lucidstone. Humans can live without harming other animals; the fact that they refuse to do so reveals how cruel, selfish and pathetic they are. I would say that you represent this type of human. Might makes right, eh?
  • Rose
    Well, I'm 18 years old. Just turned 18 not more than 60 days ago, and I have this lack of "a rather broad perspective" and don't "look at life through both a rational and unemotional lens that gives me clarity and an emotional lens that gives me understanding."
    I really don't care.

    I realize I haven't cited anything in my "lengthy rebuttals" but really? The most I've done with that is my stupid essays for class on subject matters far less complicated than this matter. When I read through, I don't see any need to cite anything, as you are attacking the way I think and word things. What do you want me to do, cite my brain?

    My opinions may have been based on something that you personally don't agree with, but I have a deep faith in my beliefs; something a lot of 18 year old's (at least a lot of the one's I know) can't say. I think I have the ability to think rather objectively, but if your argument is that my beliefs are all emotionally based. I'm a teenager, what do you think my life is based on?

    But still, if you read the article. it clearly states, and I'll quote:

    "At issue here is not the validity or morality of animal research, nor is it the efficacy of controversial tactics. Differences of opinion on those issues no longer matter. What’s at issue is whether the War on Terrorism should be used to target protesters as terrorists."

    As for my rights. You still haven't said anything on what gives you right to address the way I live MY life and the way I think. I don't even know you. I have not criticized your belief systems. YOU have become the terrorist here, in a sense. It's really been me just arguing back on something you either misinterpreted, or took the wrong way. It all goes back to what you think about mine, and others' opinions when it comes to the the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act.

    On a final note: There still is a pretty big age gap. Maybe my lack or worldliness has had an effect on my perceptions of things, and since you *obviously* have that, that's another difference.
    You have also made assumptions about me as well; it's true I haven't traveled 20 million countries and have friends all over the world. But, just take a look back 8 years and tell me that you would be able to recover from attacks on your beliefs as I have.
  • Rose:

    I don't think your age has anything at all to do with it. The fact that you're in high school and are able to put together a more logical, even-handed response these people attacking you says much more about them than it does about you. Keep posting! Best, Will
  • lucidstone
    Furthermore,

    Not ALL opinions are created equal.

    Some are created on emotion, some are created on false or distorted premises, and some are created on objective viewpoints supported by objective evidence.

    Some are created by rational thought processes. Some others are not.

    There is a very broad spectrum here with many different beginnings and properties.

    So, no. Not ALL opinions are created equal.

    Think about how yours are created.
  • lucidstone
    @anonymous
    Hehe, my Scottish and Kiwi friends say "wanker" . . . and every time it makes me giggle inside. The premise of your argument depends solely on the anthropomorphizing of animal minds. Without citing empirical data, your argument is baseless.

    Furthermore, it's worth noting that in the animal kingdom animals live in "fear" of other animals all the time. Also, many animals have displayed characteristics and behaviors that I would describe as "cruel". (ever see a chimpanzee troupe go on a war party against a rival tribe? Or how about a killer whale that plays with the body of a seal like it's a beach ball? Or animals that eat their prey before killing them?) However, this is not a justification of animal cruelty, just a basic fact of the world.

    @ Rose

    Thank you for:
    “Truth never damages a cause that is just.” -Gandhi

    This exactly portrays what is wrong with this article. Protection against animal cruelty and protection of freedom of speech are BOTH just causes; HOWEVER, this article distorts the TRUTH about the allegations. That quote is perfect, I wish Will Potter would remember that.

    I used wikipedia for the LEGAL description of "defamation", a topic in itself that is not disputed . . . but if we are actually going to be that critical about sources than here:

    http://www.expertlaw.com/library/personal_injur...

    (it serves mentioning that nowhere in your lengthy rebuttals have you provided a source of your own, other than your personal feelings)

    All of your arguments have been based on blurring the lines between peaceful legitimate protests and activities that violate the rights of another. There is a very real distinction here, and the case surrounding these 4 individuals is based on that distinction. It would be a benefit for all activists to understand this.

    You simply don't have the right to threaten and criminally harass another human being. Period.

    Also, the race factor is NEVER a "prime factor" in discussions of the principles of legitimate activism. These principles are transcendental across all of humanity.

    You have made a lot of assumptions about me. First of my race and ethnicity having never been persecuted. Then of my own life experiences of being a cookie cutter member of society that has never been personally oppressed under long periods of time by the surrounding community. And finally, of my age.

    You have been wrong on all three counts.

    It is irrelevant, but if it serves to shed any light on my perspective then personally I'm 26 and I have traveled far more than anyone else I've grown up with. I have talked to and made friends with people from every walk of life, from wealthy to impoverished and scientist to free form hippies, and have personal friends from various corners of the world.

    5 coast to coast road trips and having lived as a ski bum in an international location can do wonders for opening up the doors of the world. Having made international friends and having access to an international buddy pass on Continental, my passport is well used.

    In regards to current Native American culture, I have been to the Blackfeet Indian reservation of Montana and I am very good friends with a now 40 year old Native American in Nevada (like every other day hanging out and helping out with the construction of his backyard, i do not recommend operating a wet saw for cutting stone pavers while drunk). He personally thinks reservations are currently the greatest detriment to the prosperity of Native Americans. I personally happen to agree with him as I see reservations as self segregation and a continuance of the economic and social disparity.

    In short, I have a rather broad perspective and I look at life through both a rational and unemotional lens that gives me clarity and an emotional lens that gives me understanding. Personally, I can switch these lenses at will.

    Judging from the thought processes you demonstrated I would surmise that you see life primarily through an emotional lens, and are unaware of how it skews rational thought.

    I think it's because of these fixed lenses that some people don't want to or are unable to understand and appreciate an opposing point of view.

    I for one will never be able to appreciate a point of view that isn't grounded in rational thought, even though I understand it. And I recognize this as a potential limitation in myself.

    Now the question remains, at the end of this lengthy reply, do you appreciate and understand the intricacies to the arguments further up above? The part that is actually relevant to the discussion of the article, that is.
  • Rose
    I was going to say that exact thing @the mysterious anonymous poster.. :)

    I also find it hilarious that this person (whomever he/she is) is arguing with a teenager about this.
  • Anonymous
    "lucidstone," you effing wanker...

    why are you so worried about the humans terrorizing and killing living feeling animals? Here is what you wrote: "No one person should ever have to live in fear of another."

    HOW ABOUT THIS? NO ANIMAL SHOULD EVER HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR OF A HUMAN. The terrorists in the labs, fur concentration camps, factory farm concentration camps, etc are the ones in need of jail and such.
  • Rose
    @lucidstone

    (By the way. I LOVE how you cited Wikipedia as your source of information.)

    "If your leaflets and chalk drawings are threatening people, like you indicated, then that’s the end of story. That is wrong. You must stop threatening other people, or face possible prosecution for violating another persons rights."

    -- Just a thought. What about my rights as an individual? I haven't told people to harm the people in my "protests," I was just simply belaying the information that is already available. When I give out public knowledge, is that wrong?

    "Furthermore, a protest is supposed to influence public opinion in a public place. Protests outside an individual’s private home does neither and only serves to harass the individual and his/her family."

    -- But, it is my right to let them know my opinion. In the past, letter writing, and other such means are not effective. Especially in the system the U.S. has. You need money and privilege to get what you want, since I have neither, I am at a loss.
    My "protests" have all been peaceful, but as I look at the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, I see similarities between myself and my beliefs and what they call "terrorism." I do not consider myself a terrorist, I simply believe that there are alternatives to the set rules that have ruled the majority.
    While not condoning civil injustices that have happened in the past, I only see the future in a bleak sense if there is not direct action to rid the world of such.. well, for lack of the word, injustices done to both human beings and animals.

    I used to go into Downtown St. Paul and would have to pass people protesting outside one of the area's hospitals, holding signs that say there are murderers inside, and "babies are killed here."
    Should they be also subjected to these terrorist laws? I felt in danger for myself as I'd enter, seeing as I had very different beliefs and didn't know what people would think of me. One person even stopped and talked to me and told me outright that I was going to hell. Not much different than those arrested in California.

    You said:
    "The idea that these researchers and professors are evil, so it’s ok to threaten, coerce, and intimidate them . . . is wrong. If this philosophy was allowed to stand, than all the right wingers would be justified in threatening, coercing, intimidating every one they “perceived” to be evil. I would dread to see the day when this is acceptable behavior."

    -- My upset is mostly with the things that are happening with this country. That is where MY passion stems. Honestly, I think the day is here that there is serious back up from the government, even as we have transitioned into an extreme liberal president.

    On a final note: I apologize for bringing up the race factor, but it is often a prime factor in these kinds of topics, but you still haven't said anything about what gives you right to criticize the actions of others.

    A quote from Ghandi, that you may want to keep in mind as well:
    "Truth never damages a cause that is just."
  • lucidstone
    Link to the FBI official complaint report:
    http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/wp-content...

    (silly "i" in images was case sensitive)
  • lucidstone
    @Rose

    Gandhi taught that "peaceful" demonstration and pacifism are the correct paths for activists. He taught that "anger" was the enemy of non-violence.

    Please read for yourself
    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/moh...

    Gandhi, I believe, would be sad to see the methods used by "some" animal rights activists, including the actions of those arrested. (provided that the allegations prove true).

    If your leaflets and chalk drawings are threatening people, like you indicated, then that's the end of story. That is wrong. You must stop threatening other people, or face possible prosecution for violating another persons rights.

    Freedom of speech does not give you, or anyone, the right to use speech that intentionally threatens another, period. No cultural history justifies this, nothing justifies this.

    My race and ethnicity, as well as yours or anyone's, are completely unrelated and irrelevant to this particular subject. The truth is the truth, regardless of race, color, or creed and the contents of the article above distorts the truth of the criminal and violent nature surrounding the allegations.

    "Defamation" is also illegal and has never been protected as freedom of speech. This is something that most activists do not understand and would do well to familiarize with in order to avoid legal trouble.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

    If you are an individual that willfully and intentionally infringes on the legal rights of another, than you will be subjected to the law. If "eco-terrorists" fall into that category than they should expect to be treated by the laws as such.

    Anyone that breaks the law and violates another's rights should be prosecuted by the law. If that gives you reason to "fear" the law, then you should reevaluate your chosen path of actions, as they may be entirely unjust.

    In regards to the sentence that troubled me:
    “Sure, the professors are probably fearing for themselves, but they wouldn’t be in that problem if they weren’t doing such things in the first place, right?”

    What troubled me was the mentality and the rationality behind this sentence. The same sentence could be used to justify the oppression of anyone "perceived" of doing wrong.

    And yes, if the allegations prove true, the 4 individuals arrested were oppressing, threatening, intimidating, coercing the researchers and professors. That is harmful.

    The idea that these researchers and professors are evil, so it's ok to threaten, coerce, and intimidate them . . . is wrong. If this philosophy was allowed to stand, than all the right wingers would be justified in threatening, coercing, intimidating every one they "perceived" to be evil. I would dread to see the day when this is acceptable behavior.

    No one person should ever have to live in fear of another.

    It is wrong what many of the anti-abortion activists did and it is wrong what many of the animal rights activists are doing.

    Do not intentionally threaten, intimidate, harass, or coerce individuals. If you do these things in the name of political/ideological goal, than that by the very definition of the word, is terrorism.

    But please don't take my word, read it for yourself:
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

    If you don't think this description of actions apply to the allegations against the 4 that were arrested, then PLEASE read the complaint report yourself with an unbiased eye.

    I strongly feel that this particular case has been grossly misrepresented on this site.

    FBI official complaint report of the allegations:
    http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/wp-content...

    Furthermore, a protest is supposed to influence public opinion in a public place. Protests outside an individual's private home does neither and only serves to harass the individual and his/her family.

    There is currently the loophole that the sidewalk is public property, but I feel this exploits the letter of the law and should be changed.

    Everything being said, I personally hope that animal rights activists can bring about legislation to further limit and prohibit animal cruelty in a peaceful manner.
  • Rose
    @lucidstone

    "Have your leaflets or chalk drawings ever threatened any individuals connected to what you’re protesting? If not then you are fine. The people arrested were arrested for taking protesting to a MILITANT level and are quite literally terrorizing people."

    - Okay, well, without admitting blame for a lot of things that have happened specifically, yes.
    But, if you take a moment and look back in time, things that happened not so long ago, not to make any assumptions that are too highly undeserved, I bet you are a middle class, white American; fitted perfectly with the rest of society.
    I am from Native American descent, and am a member of the Leech Lake Band of Ojibwe, but I prefer Anishinaabe, which is the name that is ours.
    The reason I mention your probably race and status is because you really don't know what it means to be "terrorized" by any means. Sure, 9/11, but that's something that was aimed at Americans as a whole. You really don't know what it's like to live after a long legacy of people that were beaten down by this country's forces, and then have to rise up from the ashes of our nation and live your life.
    I struggle a lot with my culture and the beliefs that I have adopted since my introduction into animal rights and environmental activism. I balance veganism with my traditional culture, which is hard to do.
    There hasn't been any struggle, therefore, I believe you lack the ability to care about things as strongly such as animal and environmental rights. I don't expect you to understand, but what place do you have telling people what they can and can't do?

    "One sentence you wrote troubled me: “Sure, the professors are probably fearing for themselves, but they wouldn’t be in that problem if they weren’t doing such things in the first place, right?”
    Substitute “professors” with “abortion clinic workers” or any other person “perceived” of doing wrong, like “atheists” or “gays” if you had a southern baptist mentality. Then read it again and tell me if your skin doesn’t crawl."

    - Were any of these people that were arrested causing any harm to the people targeted? If you want to argue, keep it with the facts that are already on the table and that are applicable.

    "The fact of the matter is that the professors and the researchers are breaking no laws and should not be subject to the vigilante justice of another person’s perceptions. Any rational mind would agree to that."

    - I agree - but people have the right to protest, right? Thanks to the wonderful Constitution of the United States of America... One which many say they're trying to preserve, but still, basic rights come last when it's something that is questioning the system of the majority. It's fear of change, common, but unfair to the people who really believe in their cause. People moved to America so that they could have "freedom"; the first amendment is supposed to protect that right. What we are seeing now, like Will was saying is the absence of that protection.
    The founders of this country fought long and hard to be free; that also includes the rights of those who oppose the majority. If we want to talk about the land of the free, we should be able to stand tall and defend those who oppose the government, and the rules that are imposed on everyone.

    "If someone thinks what they are doing is wrong than they should start lobbying local, state, and federal government to change the law and keep the protesting civilized."

    - Were the people arrested that were doing things listed in this topic, being uncivil in any manner? Lobbying doesn't work, unless you have some sort of special interest, which is what I've encountered just in my school.
    I know, it's considered terrorism now.. or something like that, but I think the only real way to get your opinion heard is through direct action, but I'll stop there....

    "Nobody should have to live in fear of another person or group of people."

    - Why should the so-called "eco-terrorists" live in fear of being prosecuted for what they believe in?
    That's essentially what's happening with this Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act.

    "When in doubt ask yourself, what would Ghandi do?"

    - Look at your posts and tell me that Ghandi would agree with you.. Just a thought...
  • lucidstone
    @ the author, Will Potter

    Fox News, in my opinion, is the worst mainstream offender of misrepresenting facts and providing slanted views in order to paint a desired picture. That's a nice way of describing propaganda.

    MSNBC is very very close behind Fox News these days in painting desired pictures. The funny thing is, is that such a small percentage of the people that see the propaganda in Fox News sees the propaganda in MSNBC. Jon Stewart did a bit about MSNBC taking the reigns from Fox News in this regard that I think accurately describes this.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/02/jon-st...

    So if anything I'm making a comparison between this article and MSNBC.

    Journalists, in my opinion, should first and foremost present the objective facts without misrepresentation. There's an editorial section in newspapers for a reason because it is important to keep a distinction between personal views and objective facts.

    I respect the value you express on freedom of speech, and that value is evident because you allow me to post an opposing and critical view on the subject you're reporting as well as the method. That is definitely commendable and I'm also happy we are able to have a civilized discussion on these differences. I however, very much disagree with some of the things you are saying on both a factual level as well as on a personal opinion level.

    I haven't read through all of your work on this subject, but I would be inclined to read an article where you draw the line in the sand between real eco-terrorism and protesting.

    Whoever firebombed 2 of those professors' homes (whose names and addresses were on the threatening fliers distributed by those arrested) could clearly and legitimately be labeled an eco-terrorist. That should not be marginalized.

    But, what about those that undergo a campaign of deliberate sabotage and destruction of property? How about those that undergo a deliberate campaign of intimidation and threat of violence? What about a campaign by people that "forcibly" cause the loss of revenue of a company? What about a campaign of criminal level of harassment?

    When you incorporate political and ideological goals into any of these questions of organized criminal activity, the definition of terrorism is close at hand.

    So my question is: where do YOU, Will Potter, draw the line between terrorism and protesting?
  • lucidstone
    @ the author, Will Potter

    I read the complaint report and I again think that you misrepresent the case.

    Page4 section 11:
    "Professor Number Eight's husband . . . heard and saw the door handle being twisted back and forth, and the door being pushed back and forth."

    That's attempted forced entry.

    "He opened the door and yelled and then struggled with one individual and was hit with a dark, firm object."

    I'll grant that it is unclear who pushed who first. But they didn't run away without first allegedly hitting him with an object, violence.

    "During the incident, one of the individuals yelled "we're gonna get you.""

    This is a threat and is intimidation, plain and simple.

    Also, if you look at page 4 section 8:

    " . . . chalked defamatory comments"

    "Defamation" is something people get sued for all the time and is not protected as freedom of speech.

    "The individuals chanted slogans such as "nine ten eleven twelve vivisectors go to hell", "murderer leave town, terrorist leave town, animal abuser leave town", "what goes down comes around burn UC Berkeley vivisection to the ground", and "we will never back down until you stop your killing". "

    All of these "slogans" are intimidation tactics and are not examples of peaceful protesting and intimidation is not protected under freedom of speech. "Burn UC Berkeley vivisection to the ground" is a threat of violence.

    These 4 individuals were arrested for allegedly intentionally taking part in a campaign of intimidation and threat of violence for the purposes of advancing an ideological goal. I would define that as terrorism.

    Now I would agree that the language in AETA has the possibility of blurring the lines between uncivil disobedience and terrorism; and, I understand and even agree with some of your concerns on that.

    But, not in this case, and the arguments based on distorted facts you present detract from the very serious question of the scope of the AETA legislation (I think the Sea Shepherd is at serious risk here of being illegitimately labeled a terrorist group, though I don't agree with the Sea Shepherd's tactics or the glorifying of the Sea Shepherd by Animal Planet) .

    I read the wording of the law and I read some of the hearings, though not all 107 pages. Yes, there is a potential problem here; but, I for one think that the "reasonable fear" clause is necessary in order to criminalize the level of intentional fear-mongering and intimidation done in the name of ideology.

    My reaction to the FBI press release is the recognition of the proposed facts of the allegations. Unlike many, I treat them as facts that have yet to be proven true or false, but are still facts of the allegations.

    Whether or not the 4 individuals are guilty of the allegations is something for the judicial system to decide. However, if the facts of the allegations prove true, then I would indeed think that this particular case was a campaign of intimidation and threat of violence for an ideological goal and correctly fits the following definition.

    ter⋅ror⋅ism
    –noun
    1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
    2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
    3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

    dictionary.com

    Furthermore, if there was a peaceful campaign against vivisection and animal abuse, I would certainly lend my signature to a petition if asked. But, I would not support in any way the actions by an extremist group that engages in a campaign of intimidation, violence, or the threat of violence.

    Also, thank you for posting links to all the legislation and legal documents. I think more people should look at the source of information and decide for themselves.
  • lucidstone
    @ Rose

    Have your leaflets or chalk drawings ever threatened any individuals connected to what you're protesting? If not then you are fine. The people arrested were arrested for taking protesting to a MILITANT level and are quite literally terrorizing people.

    One sentence you wrote troubled me: "Sure, the professors are probably fearing for themselves, but they wouldn’t be in that problem if they weren’t doing such things in the first place, right?"

    Substitute "professors" with "abortion clinic workers" or any other person "perceived" of doing wrong, like "atheists" or "gays" if you had a southern baptist mentality. Then read it again and tell me if your skin doesn't crawl.

    The fact of the matter is that the professors and the researchers are breaking no laws and should not be subject to the vigilante justice of another person's perceptions. Any rational mind would agree to that.

    If someone thinks what they are doing is wrong than they should start lobbying local, state, and federal government to change the law and keep the protesting civilized.

    Nobody should have to live in fear of another person or group of people.

    Eco-terrorism is a very real form of terrorism when researchers home's are firebombed and a group of people intentionally threaten the safety of another group of people for the ideological goal of animal rights. That's what's been going on in the California.

    If you have any doubts read the actual FBI news release:
    http://sanfrancisco.fbi.gov/pressrel/2009/sf022...
    (unfortunately Will Potter did not accurately portray this story)

    But protesting is still very much protected as long as you don't destroy property, forcibly cause financial damage, threaten, or harass individuals. Freedom of speech is still protected, anarchist behavior is not. Basically just remember to keep the "civil" in civil disobedience.

    When in doubt ask yourself, what would Ghandi do?
  • lucidstone
    @ the author, Will Potter

    Before getting defensive, do you honestly believe that you didn't reduce anything? And do you honestly believe that you omitted hearsay?

    Think about it.

    If you need a map of logic on this one I'll be happy to oblige.

    1. The reported incident had 3 facts reported by witnesses: attempted breaking and entering, assault, and verbal threat. These 3 facts, be them true or false, are officially reported allegations by the complaining parties.

    You reported one fact as if it was the entirety of the incident and then characterized it as:

    "The only allegation of possible criminal activity is the FBI’s mention of a forced entry. The details of that incident are unclear, though. For instance, at many lawful home protests in the past, activists have been attacked by the people they are protesting who, understandably, are not happy about a demonstration right outside their front door. In short, the very worst element of the entire set of allegations . . ."

    First of all, the allegations of assault and verbalized threats are just as criminal as the allegation of attempted B&E.

    Secondly, these omitted allegations depict a violent nature to the protest in question and are truly "the very worst element of the entire set of allegations".

    Omitting these two facts of the allegations drastically changes the picture.

    2. This is an official representation by a law enforcement agency of the reported incidents by the complaining parties. That is NOT hearsay.

    If it were, then ALL officially reported allegations would be considered hearsay and such news, including yours, would be meaningless.

    3. The logic of your rebuttal doesn't add up. First you say you omitted nothing as it is "nearly verbatim" (which is false) and then you say in reverse fashion that you only omitted hearsay (which means you just contradicted yourself by admitting you omitted something).

    This isn't about me being right or you being wrong, this is about objective truth. Be it intentional or not, you DID misrepresent the facts of the story.

    I'm sure you know that Fox News omits and distorts facts as well as uses faulty reasoning processes in order to paint a desired picture.
    The true test is whether or not you recognize such a picture for what it is when it's a picture of what you would want to see.

    Let's please be better than that.

    One last thought, the individuals arrested were arrested for allegedly threatening another person and allegedly causing them to live in a state of fear in the name of ideology. That is quite different than what your benign title would suggest.
  • @lucidstone:

    I suggest you read today's post and the criminal complaint, and then take another look at these points.

    First, for example, the individual researcher who you say was "assaulted" is described as "struggling" with activists, then being hit with some kind of object. Stop swallowing the FBI talking points hook, line and sinker.

    Second, this isn't a case about violence, or the threat of violence. It's about speech. It's unclear whether the "assault" is being treated as the primary crime, or one crime among these other activities. However, since you seem to believe it is the focus of this case, the supporting evidence in both the press release and the complaint is First Amendment activity: chalking, protests, creating fliers. The fact that an alleged forced entry and assault took place does not negate the fact that it is First Amendment activity. It's truly chilling to think that you, and others, could treat this guilt by association as some kind of "objective" truth.

    Third, you're missing the entire point of the AETA. Go back and read the Congressional hearing. (Not my testimony, but the words of the people behind this). Supporters weren't concerned with physical violence in that hearing, they were concerned with speech that instills "reasonable fear." The FBI is laying the groundwork to argue that these protests violate the "reasonable fear" clause of the AETA. The complaint links the activists to First Amendment activity, but not the actual crime you insist took place the way the FBI describes.

    And comparing me to Fox News? Really? Among many differences, here is the most important: Fox news often has an opinion, or a bias, in favor of blindly following the government and people in power. My admitted "bias" is in favor of the First Amendment.
  • rose
    Okay.
    This is bull. (For lack of better words.)
    I've read through many of the comments as well and feel like people still don't understand that this IS a problem. If they're going to label anyone a terrorist, it should be someone who has actually instilled "terror" in people. ("terror"ist, right?)
    Sure, the professors are probably fearing for themselves, but they wouldn't be in that problem if they weren't doing such things in the first place, right?
    If they're going to point the terrorist finger at them, they might as well do it to me, and probably a good half of the people that I know, just because I have done similar things like leaflet and write with CHALK on sidewalks and such. It hasn't hurt anyone.
    I know there's been a few comments referring to organizations such as KKK, and right-wing anti-abortion groups then comparing them with acts such as these? It's totally irrelevant.
    I'm actually a senior in high school right now, and will be attending the University of Minnesota in the fall, one of the region's largest "research" facilities. I'm facing moral dillemas with myself, and my culture a lot because of their eagerness to commercialize and genetically modify wild rice, which I am totally against. I've brought it to many people's attention, and have talked to a lot of people about what it would take to prevent such things from happening. Should they arrest me for terrorism?
    I attended one of Will's speech thingers at the U of M a few weeks ago, and was really completely baffled at this breach of the first ammendment. I was in my US government class this morning, and the teacher was talking about how "people think" (more like she thinks) Obama has a socialist agenda. Personally, I'm not a fan of him, but, to say this and have the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act in place, is quite literally, very contradictory. Probably one of the biggest oxymoron's I've heard.
    If the right wants to attack civil liberties, they should stop attacking someone who's actually looking looking out for someone other than themselves and their money.

    Sorry if that rambled, but I hope I made my point come through sufficiently.
  • Thanks for your comment, Rose. You're absolutely right, it's quite contradictory to talk about how "liberal" Obama and crew are, while ignoring sweeping attacks on people's civil liberties under his watch.
  • Next thing you know, all of these "terrorism" happy name-callers will be saying we can't protest in front of the white house either because it's a "residence".

    This is ridiculous.
  • lucidstone
    I also think it's inexcusable that Will Potter, supposedly being a journalist, would reduce the following charge:

    On February 24, 2008, five to six individuals including Mr. Pope, Ms. Stumpo, and Ms. Khajavi, attempted to forcibly enter the private home of a University of California researcher in Santa Cruz. When her husband opened the door, a struggle ensued and he was hit by an object. As the individuals fled, one yelled, “We’re gonna get you.” The professor and her husband both told the FBI they were terrified by the incident.

    to:

    At one protest, a group of five or six activists allegedly “attempted to forcibly enter the private home of a University of California researcher in Santa Cruz.”

    This reduction leaves out the KEY allegations of assault and the verbal threat, "We're gonna get you."

    If these allegations prove true, than those individuals deserved to be locked up.
  • @lucidstone:
    I haven't reduced anything. I repeated, nearly verbatim, the allegations of the FBI. I refuse, however, to repeat their heresay.
  • lucidstone
    I'm personally of the opinion that the use of violence or the threat of violence to accomplish a political/ideological goal is by definition terrorism.

    The alleged charges posted above are an offense to the following clause of AETA:

    (B) intentionally places a person in reasonable fear of the death of, or serious bodily injury to that person, a member of the immediate family (as defined in section 115) of that person, or a spouse or intimate partner of that person by a course of conduct involving threats, acts of vandalism, property damage, criminal trespass, harassment, or intimidation

    And the corresponding penalty:

    (2) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or both, if no bodily injury occurs and—
    (A) the offense results in economic damage exceeding $10,000 but not exceeding $100,000; or
    (B) the offense instills in another the reasonable fear of serious bodily injury or death;

    I'll shed no tears for the incarceration of those who terrorize other people with intimidation tactics such as those described.

    This particular case is NOT about free speech.
  • "Their only weapons are words."

    Ah... the pen IS truly mightier than the sword!!!!
  • Whitney Wilde
    Oh fer cryin' out loud! Chalking is now a FEDERAL offense? Don't they have better things to do?

    That's it.... I'm grabbing my chalk and writing things on MY sidewalk. Let's see.....

    The government is now "of the people, by the people, for the" business of profit.

    Protest is LEGAL!
  • Joe
    How is trying to force your way into a home while a childerns party is happening activisim? Pope, Stumpo and Khajavi also hit the father in the head with something when they tried to break in, thats assault and the whole thing equals a very violent crime.
  • @Joe:
    As I point out in this post, that is the only allegation of any actual criminal activity in an entire "terrorism" case. And it's unsubstantiated. Worst case scenario, assuming that this actually happened exactly the way the researcher described: how does a single incidents of attempted forced entry rise to the level of a multi-agency FBI, JTTF, and local enforcement investigation, on federal terrorism charges?

    I've been the victim of similar petty crime, and so have many people reading this, and the FBI sure as hell didn't put any effort into helping me.
  • Observer: We are working to reduce suffering, the examples you refer to don't have that aim and hurt others. Apples and oranges. Rather than the KKK we are more like the Abolitionists and the underground railroad. Yes it hurt the slave owner's pocketbooks, thats ok don't you think?

    When we run out of money we keep fighting. When they run out of money they will close shop. Keep fighting, every little bit adds up to something huge-
    Thanks Will you are beyond fabulous.
  • An Observer
    >As to your point about anti-abortion activists: that movement has actually MURDERED people.

    Not for lack of trying...
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/...
    But what's the difference on accomplished violence anyway? Both movements are intent on personalizing attacks on their opponents. Showing up in people's neighborhoods is implicitly a threat; it's the same as the thug who says "I know where you live."
  • The link you just posted is to a crime that:
    1) Has never been claimed by, or pinned on, any animal rights activist
    2) Has not harmed anyone

    There's a very, very big difference between protest and "accomplished violence."

    Further, "showing up in people's neighborhood" is Constitutionally-protected speech. You don't like those types of protests, but too bad: that's the price of living in a democracy.
  • An Observer
    Well see how this post holds up once this group is interrogated. The FBI does not investigate for chalking; obviously, the concern is these individuals' roles in a larger campaign to intimidate researchers.
    Labeling green as the new red does not address the larger issue about threats and violence coming from this well-intentioned but extreme movement. Compare the actions of some of these groups with anti-abortion activists. The latter are being investigated by the FBI too. Would you call the pro-lifers the new red? It's the same stuff--appeals to life, extremely aggressive picketing, and violence.
  • @An Observer:

    The chalking information was taken verbatim from the FBI press release. It's one of only four "incidents" listed. If they had stronger material, they would have used it.

    As to your point about anti-abortion activists: that movement has actually MURDERED people. The animal rights movement has not. And these activists are not accused of anything close to that. Further, DHS does not list right-wing groups on its lists of national security threats. So no, it's not at all the same.
  • sn
    Hey Mike, burning a cross covered in white sheets on someone's property isn't assaulting someone either, but I think it should prosecuted as terrorism. The terror is in the intent of the people calling for the professor's to murdered as they 'murder' animals.
  • @sn:

    It's quite a stretch to compare these activists, and the animal rights and environmental movements more broadly, to the KKK. Primarily because, unlike the klan, these activists have never murdered, assaulted, lynched and raped people.

    You won't find the KKK chalking sidewalks.
  • Mike Snacks
    Well everybody, welcome to Obama's America. If anybody was wondering whether or not Obama's Joint Terrorism Task Force was going to push boundaries even the Bush administration didn't have the guts to, here's your answer.

    Skeeez: 2 points.
    1. You can't terrorize somebody's property.
    2. Forceful coercion (or threat there of) is the only way the police (who you see as valid I assume, since you said these folks should be arrested) operate and exert influence. It's how social control/influence work. You simply seem to see the state (who, I think it's clear, have recently been making laws at the request or corporations, read:wealthy people) as a legitimate purveyor of forceful coercion and activists (read: people without money to buy laws) as illegitimate. That's some bullshit.
  • I saw these reports when they came out the other night and was brought to tears. It so damned frustrating that this is happening. These poor people... and the FBI? Don't they have some sex slaves to free or something? I guess that's not as glamorous.

    I suppose on the bright side, one can assume that this means animal rights activism and environmental activism are working. Otherwise, they wouldn't have these laws. It's upsetting that some must go to jail for ridiculous reasons as a result.

    Next they'll be getting little kids for drawing on the sidewalk with chalk. It has happened before... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/10/13/2007...
  • BB
    "In August, an incendiary device was left at the home of a UC researcher; no animal rights group has claimed responsibility for this crime..."

    Perhaps no AR group claimed responsibility for the crime, because no AR group COMMITTED the crime in the first place.
    Hey, Skeeez, do you still believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy? It appears so, since you're so passively willing to believe the BS shoveled out by the corporate controlled media and their hired henchman--pseudo law enforcement agencies--[who's "laws" are they enforcing?] and their ugly twin sister, mock justice [justice for who?]. You are now entering the Twilight Zone and the signpost up ahead reads--FASCISM...today, prison for those speaking out against the immoral...tomorrow when "they" grow weary and impatient with the voices of truth--then come the death camps.
    Don't empower evil by failing to investigate. Don't assume ANYTHING. The individual who continuously questions is the one closest to finding the truth.
  • Justin
    "although it is most certain that the f.b.i. over reacted and should have never been involved in this case, 2 wrongs do not make a right. submitting someones personal information publicly to anybody and anyone who may be capable of commiting crimes against that person or property is not right."

    These are professors. Their information is public already, and distribution of it is not a violation of any right. Even the "property destruction" of an individual's things is a civil issue, unless they burned down the guy's house, which they didn't :P. The trespassing is a few hundred dollar misdemeanor ticket... hardly something as bad as a "terrorist act", or any number of things the government does on a daily basis.
  • Matthew
    While I recognize it is horrific to try to find any silver living in these seemingly bogus arrests, this a great case to test the constitutionality of the AETA. The law has never had it's day in court, and these arrests are so outrageous, a court may actually knock the law down.
  • skeeez
    although it is most certain that the f.b.i. over reacted and should have never been involved in this case, 2 wrongs do not make a right. submitting someones personal information publicly to anybody and anyone who may be capable of commiting crimes against that person or property is not right. same goes for sex offenders and anyone else. the animal rights activists should not be aloud to do as they please in the name of their cause. if i or anyone else was to do this single handed you would be arrested for stalking, terrorist threats, disturbing the peace and many other charges. i do not feel that the charges these people face are that bad at all other then being labeled "terrorist" but if you terrorize someone and or their property you must be willing to accept punishment.
  • We must resist the scare tactics of government and the animal-oppressing industries that push them to harshly repress legal activism. Corporations see their profits at risk and will do whatever it takes to defend themselves. Let's all redouble our efforts and continue asserting our free speech rights to speak out against injustice. Don't let them scare us into silence and passivity.
  • Kathy
    Well, I guess now is a great time for the real terrorists to attack America, now that the FBI is tied up with this stupid stuff. Great utilization of FBI resources........Let these people hire bodyguards paid for out of their own pockets, if they are so concerned about their well-being.
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