Green Scare flier by Eberhardt Press.

Green Scare flier by Eberhardt Press.

Welcome to GreenIsTheNewRed.com! This website focuses on how fear of “terrorism” is being exploited to push a political and corporate agenda. Specifically, I focus on how animal rights and environmental advocates are being branded “eco-terrorists” in what many are calling the Green Scare.

Top of the Terrorism List

“The No. 1 domestic terrorism threat,” says John Lewis, a top FBI official, “is the eco-terrorism, animal-rights movement.”

The animal rights and environmental movements, like every other social movement throughout history, have both legal and illegal elements. There are people who leaflet, write letters, and lobby. There are people who protest and engage in non-violent civil disobedience. And there are people, like the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front, who go out at night with black masks and break windows, burn SUVs, and release animals from fur farms.

Animal rights and environmental advocates have not flown planes into buildings, taken hostages, or sent Anthrax through the mail. They have never even injured anyone. In fact, the only act of attempted murder in the history of the U.S. animal rights movement was coordinated by corporate provocateurs. Yet the FBI ranks these activists as the top domestic terrorism threat. And the Department of Homeland Security lists them on its roster of national security threats, while ignoring right-wing extremists who have bombed the Oklahoma City federal building, murdered doctors, and admittedly created weapons of mass destruction.

Defining the Green Scare

This disproportionate, heavy-handed government crackdown on the animal rights and environmental movements, and the reckless use of the word “terrorism,” is often called the Green Scare.

Much like the Red Scare and the communist witch hunts of the 40s and 50s, the Green Scare is using one word—this time, it’s “terrorist”—to push a political agenda, instill fear, and chill dissent. And much like the Red Scare, the Green Scare is operating on three levels: legal, legislative, and what we’ll call extra-legal, or scare-mongering.

Legal

The courts are being used to push conventional boundaries of what constitutes “terrorism” and to hit non-violent activists with disproportionate sentences.

  • SHAC 7.
    The SHAC 7 outside the courthouse in New Jersey.

    The SHAC 7 outside the courthouse in New Jersey.

    A federal court convicted a group of animal advocates of “animal enterprise terrorism” for running a controversial website that supported both legal and illegal activity against a lab called Huntingdon Life Sciences. The site also listed addresses for corporations and corporate executives. The group, dubbed the SHAC 7, were never charged with breaking windows or releasing animals, but they vocally supported those types of activities. For that, they were convicted of “conspiring” to promote “terrorism.” Here’s a closer look at the SHAC 7.

  • Operation Backfire.
    Daniel McGowan, left, and Jonathan Paul.

    Daniel McGowan, left, and Jonathan Paul.

    That’s the name the FBI gave to the historic roundup of environmental and animal rights activists for a string of Earth Liberation Front and Animal Liberation Front actions, including arson in the name of protecting the environment. Before these defendants ever set foot in the courtroom, they were labeled in the press as “eco-terrorists.” The government successfully pushed for “terrorism enhancement” penalties in many of these cases. As a result, many of these activists are now in prison as “terrorists,” a label that drastically changes their prison life and will follow them long after release. Another result of the “terrorism enhancement” is that the FBI claims these cases as a victory in the “War on Terrorism.”

  • Government Informants and Infiltrators. Although some of the Operation Backfire defendants—Daniel McGowan, Jonathan Paul, Joyanna Zacher and Nathan Block—refused to become government informants, the others “snitched” in exchange for reduced sentences. In fact, the government has said these arrests wouldn’t have been possible if one of the defendants, Jacob Ferguson, hadn’t agreed to wear a wire and entrap his friends. We’ve seen the same thing take place in other “eco-terrorism” cases. And in the case of Eric McDavid, who was sentenced to 20 years in prison for conspiring to destroy cell phone towers and other property, the FBI actually paid a young woman, “Anna,” to pose as an activist: she provided the group with bomb-making recipes; at times financed their transportation, food and housing; strung along McDavid, who had the hopes of a romantic relationship; and poked and prodded the group into action.
  • Grand juries. In the name of investigating illegal activity, the government has been hauling lawful activists in front of grand juries where they must testify about their political beliefs and political associations, or face prison time. Activists like Jeff Hogg and independent journalist Josh Wolf have refused to cooperate with these witch hunts, and been punished for it. Elsewhere, noncooperation has derailed grand juries.

Legislative

Even with these sweeping, and successful, legal attacks on activists, corporations and the politicians who represent them want even more power.

Extra-Legal

Perhaps the most dangerous wing of this Green Scare is the relentless scare-mongering.

Secretive Political Prisons — Communications Management Units

The label of “terrorist” is applied to activists before they even enter a courtroom and, for those convicted, it follows them into the prison system. The government has acknowledged using secretive prison facilities on U.S. soil, called Communications Management Units, to house inmates labeled “domestic terrorists.”

The CMUs radically restrict prisoner communications with the outside world to levels that rival, or exceed, the most restrictive facilities in the country, including the “Supermax,” ADX-Florence. [For more information on CMUs and who is housed there: "Secretive U.S. Prison Units Used to House Muslim, Animal Rights and Environmental Activists."]

Inmates and guards at the CMUs call them “Little Guantanamo.” They have also been described as prisons for “second-tier” terrorists.

According the Bureau of Prisons, these inmates “do not rise to the same degree of potential risk to national security” as other terrorism inmates. So who is imprisoned there?

The CMUs overwhelmingly include Muslim inmates, and have housed at least two animal rights and environmental activists: Andy Stepanian, who has been released, and Daniel McGowan, who is currently imprisoned at the CMU in Marion, Illinois.

Little information is available about the secretive facilities and the prisoners housed there. However, through interviews with attorneys, family members, and a current prisoner, it is clear that these units have been created not for violent and dangerous “terrorists,” but for political cases that the government would like to keep out of the public spotlight and out of the press.

So Why is This Happening?

Leaked State Department presentation about activists.

Leaked State Department presentation about activists.

The government and corporations haven’t tried to hide the fact that this is all meant to protect corporate profits. The Department of Homeland Security, in a bulletin to law enforcement agencies, warned: “Attacks against corporations by animal rights extremists and eco-terrorists are costly to the targeted company and, over time, can undermine confidence in the economy.”

And in a leaked PowerPoint presentation given by the State Department to corporations, we learn: “Although incidents related to terrorism are most likely to make the front-page news, animal rights extremism is what’s most likely to affect your day-to-day business operations.”

Underground activists like the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front directly threaten corporate profits by doing things like burning bulldozers or sabotaging animal research equipment. But they’re not the only ones.

The entire animal rights and environmental movements, perhaps more than any other social movements, directly threaten corporate profits. They do it every day. Every time activists encourage people to go vegan, every time they encourage people to stop driving, every time they encourage people to consume fewer resources and live simply. Those boycotts are permanent, and these industries know it. In many ways, the Green Scare, like the Red Scare, can be seen as a culture war, a war of values.

What Effect Has This Had?

The point of all this, according to the government, is to crack down on underground activists. But underground activists already know what they’re doing is illegal, and it hasn’t stopped them. In fact, it may have added fuel to the fire. For instance, the same day the SHAC 7 were convicted of “animal enterprise terrorism” for running a website that posted news of both legal and illegal actions, underground activists rescued animals from a vivisection lab and named them Jake, Lauren, Kevin, Andy, Josh, and Darius, after the defendants.

This is from the communiqué:

“And while the SHAC-7 will soon go to jail for simply speaking out on behalf of animals, those of us who have done all the nasty stuff talked about in the courts and in the media will still be free. So to those who still work with HLS and to all who abuse animals: we’re coming for you, motherfuckers.”

What Now?

So if outlandish prison sentences and “eco-terrorism” rhetoric aren’t deterring crimes or solving crimes, what’s the point?

Activists protest

Activists protest eco-terror legislation, and get results.

Fear. It’s all about fear. The point is to protect corporate profits by instilling fear in the mainstream animal rights and environmental movements—and every other social movement paying attention—and make people think twice about using their First Amendment rights.

Industry groups say “this is just the starting gun” for the Green Scare. But this could be the starting gun for activists as well. I’ve talked with hundreds of activists around the country over the years. There’s a lot of fear. But there’s also a lot of rage. And that’s a very good thing.

Because today’s repression may mimic many of the tactics of the Red Scare, but today’s response cannot. It’s not enough to cowardly distance ourselves from anyone branded a communist, I mean, terrorist. Naming names and making loyalty oaths didn’t protect activists then, and it won’t protect activists now.

The only way activists, and the First Amendment, are going to get through this is by coming out and confronting it head-on. That means reaching out to mainstream Americans and telling them that labeling activists as terrorists wastes valuable anti-terrorism resources and is an insult to everyone who died in the twin towers. That means reaching out to other activists and saying loud and clear that these activists are just the canaries in the mine.

Together, we can stop they cycle of history repeating itself.

  • Asfd
    Well, from their point of view, as capitalist lap dogs, ELF/ALF and other environmental and anti capitalist organizations, violent or otherwise, /are/ the greatest threat. The greatest threat to the status quo of empire.
  • margie54
    I do not understand why the USA Gt is going after environmentalist with such a passion. Environmentalist should be more on a heros list; by helping to wake America up from a preventable crisis that we are choosing to sleep through. Protecting our Earth and all inhabitants is what we should all be pulling for. There is no other place like home; Earth! To destroy my planet and inhabitants for business financial gain is Wrong and should be labeled the "Illegal" activity. Yeah! To the environmentalist and BOO! To the government for taking away OUR 1st Amendment Rights. AKA-BILL OF RIGHTS!!!
  • custer12
    You are closer then you know to right wing terrorist's. You should think before you open your mouth
  • Really? Huh. That's interesting, because from where I'm sitting, it's pretty clear I'm nowhere close to murdering doctors, sending anthrax, threatening to kill the president, flying planes into IRS buildings...
  • rosswolfe
    I like that Will Potter will respond to half-literate nutjobs but won't reply to a reasoned Leftist critique of the degenerate ideology of "Green."
  • NorVegan
    If you'd post a reasoned leftist critique, maybe he'd respond to it.
  • Ross: If you are looking to exchange invectives about environmentalism, you've got the wrong site. The basis of the work I do is that it doesn't matter how you feel about environmental issues: the civil liberties implications of recklessly labeling people "terrorists" because of their politics, no matter how "degenerate," affects everyone.
  • rosswolfe
    What do you make of my criticism, Will Potter?
  • rosswolfe
    "Green" is the new "Red," you say?

    As a Marxist (the term "Red" is a bit anachronistic), I'm disgusted by the romantic anti-capitalism and mindless actionism of the "Green" movement that has become so fashionable lately. It's by far the most wretched and ineffectual of all the reactionary ideologies that are floating around today's Left. To me, all it really signifies is the total impoverishment of the international Left and its regression to an extremely naive and self-righteous caricature of itself.

    Listen: the problem is not a bunch of manipulative bastards scheming in board meetings from Wall Street or wherever, "pulling the strings" of Washington. Belonging to some gigantic, "soulless" corporation is not just a bad lifestyle choice or anything along those lines. Surely, special interests are real, and there are manipulative bastards in this world. But the problem is not that of which special interests are in control of things. It's a structural problem of global capitalism, which in its present stage of neoliberalism necessitates the present situation. The only way to solve this problem is to fundamentally transform society by removing its basis in the logic of self-valorizing value, or capital.

    Unless you understand this basic Marxist insight, you're bound to get lost in the kind of banal paranoid conspiracy theories that this article pushes. And just for the record, what you call the "Green scare" is hardly comparable to either of the two major "Red scare(s)" in our nation's history in terms of scale or even tactics. The reason why should be obvious. The international Communist movement (even in its degenerate Stalinist and Maoist forms) was backed by powerful authoritarian states that possessed nuclear stockpiles and huge militaries, which were moreover political rivals with the more traditional liberal democracies of Western Europe and the U.S.

    Though the Green movement has a somewhat rational basis in terms of its concerns over environmental "sustainability" and so on, I would argue that this is only important insofar as it facilitates the continuation of modern society. More often than not, however, its ideology is bound up with a nauseating veneration of nature and the primitive. Its advocates are always bemoaning the "corporate agenda" that keeps shutting down their mission of wholesome, feel-good emancipation. It hypostatizes nature as some sort of transhistorical phenomenon and views society's utilization of it as invasive and exploitative. Surely, we are alienated from nature at the present moment, but this is an outcome of long historical processes. And the answer is not in reverting back to the fiction of some pre-capitalist paradise where these problems didn't exist.

    The point should not be some romantic "respect" for nature, but rather society's self-conscious mastery over nature. As Trotskii wrote in 1924, "The Socialist man will rule all nature by the machine, with its grouse and its sturgeons. He will point out places for mountains and for passes. He will change the course of the rivers, and he will lay down rules for the oceans. The idealist simpletons may say that this will be a bore, but that is why they are simpletons. Of course this does not mean that the entire globe will be marked off into boxes, that the forests will be turned into parks and gardens. Most likely, thickets and forests and grouse and tigers will remain, but only where man commands them to remain. And man will do it so well that the tiger won’t even notice the machine, or feel the change, but will live as he lived in primeval times. The machine is not in opposition to the earth."
  • Kevin Tucker
    Trotsky WAS a douche bag. Ross Wolfe IS a douche bag.
  • rosswolfe
    This clearly refutes everything I wrote above. Bravo, Kevin Tucker.

    Also, I just finished reading your little article, "What is the Totality?". Now that I have, I can say without hyperbole that it was one of the most excruciatingly terrible pieces of writing I've ever, ever had to suffer through.
  • michele
    An all-encompassing piece . Thank you for printing the truth . The US is all f...ed up in its priorities . A riven ship bopping toward the iceberg.
  • tulipwalk23
    Mallory, what about the scientists that are experimenting on animals and fur farms, animals in entertainment, factory farming, etc, etc, etc? don't you think thats a crime? if anything Alf is coming to the defense and putting an end to further pain caused to these animals.
  • nancyforler
    It is so very sad to see the destruction and killing of so many birds and animals that are so connected with the total eco-system of this planet. They are losing their breeding and hunting grounds. And for people who care about protecting animal life to be considered terrorists, please tell me who are they murdering? Throwing stink bombs on a Japanese whaler, who was illegaly in waters off Australia, does constitute terrorism in my eyes. Please tell me why the FBI or any other government agency can really believe that we who try to protect nature are terrorists? For 60 years, I have lived on this planet and it makes me sick, sad, angry and frustrated to see the torment, abuse, neglect, pollution and killing of people and animals alike. I would give my eye teeth to be on the Sea Shepherd fighting along with the crew to defend the whales. If we cared more about the planet and global warming and enough, already about wars and killing, maybe this planet will still be here for my grandchildren and yours.
  • I Just found this website and so far i think its one of the best uses for the internet.

    great job!
  • Mr Warbucks
    Dear Activists

    I believe I could truly be a great activist for your cause, if only the right woman would come and recruit me. Please remember that this is a limited time offer. Sincerely, Mr Warbucks
  • zack
    Activists picket, call, and write elected representatives, terrorists burn things, blow things up, and sabotage. There is no such thing as a "green scare", I think everyone knows this. In fact the green movement wacko's tell us every day how we're all gonna die from red #40, air pollution, global warming, pesticide, cell phones and cancer, etc... I'm not saying that we shouldn't do our part to live cleaner lives, just doing your part doesn't have to involve burning down buildings.
    I camp, fish, hike, hunt, and enjoy the wilderness all the time. There is plenty of it, and it is as wild and free.
  • Linda
    I live in Montana Where Logging and Mining have historically been the main industry creating Jobs for Americans, If timber is managed properly it is a re renewable resource, We burn already Dead trees for Fire wood - hence limiting our use of fossil fuels, When you harvest a dead tree, the sun shines in the forest and the young trees flourish, The moss from the waste limbs feed the deer, Elk,and Moose, and the uneaten branch decomposes naturally providing continued humus for upcoming vegetation.
    Montanans Love their Forests and View them as a wonderful place to bring the whole family together for Camping,Hiking,nature walks,We harvest wild berry's and make them into jams and jelly's for personal use. We harvest wild mushrooms. all of these are renewable resources.
    We hunt Only for Food, and are opposed to the words Fish Wild Life and parks uses to define hunting as a "Sport" By Using the word Sport, We are greatly offended by F.W.P. attitudes.
    We are Building a Cob Cottage all From renewable resources, It is amazing to us how good the earth is to us if we use common sense Pasted Down from Grandfather to Son.
    We preserve our land for future generations, (Home Stead lands)
    In the near future, "we' the people will need to take back our State sovereignty, So we can all decide Locally how to best manage our own Lands, It is the Local people who can make informed decisions. Lest get together and Demand State sovereignty.
    Linda
  • Judy Lust
    I'm not a "terrorist". But I believe in animal rights and animal welfare. I believe in protecting the environment. All of this is done LEGALLY. If freedom of speech has disappeared from our rights, let me know. Or maybe it's just removed from US.
  • Well written info- Will definitely visit again.
  • Bart
    While i don't support the government in it's continuing suppression of 'fringe' leftist political elements, i do support a purification of the left from the animal-rights and vegan wing-nuts. They give the progressive (and anarchist) left a black eye and make us look like mindless lunatics. Individuals who choose to operate with mindless zealotry instead of cool reason need not be part of the leftist movement (s).

    Additionally, vegans and their ilk in the animal liberation front are ignorant of evolutionary evolution and the anatomy of homo Sapien. We'd have multiple stomachs, all molars, probably chew cud, and would be a prey species with the features and behavior thereof. Meat consumption is one of the big reasons our evolution and brains were turbo-charged and the amino acids Only found in meat our bodies definitely need. P.E.T.A. and their ilk need to get a clue and apply their revolutionary energy where it is Logically needed.

    Last but not least, if it wasn't for animal research, little things like Asprin wouldn't exist and humans would be the guinea pigs.
    IF one can prove animal cruelty is being practiced at a research facility (extensive legal evidence beyond a shadow of doubt), go ahead however one needs to make a point for the cause. Otherwise, keep your kooky false opinions to yourself and your compatriots (or even better, meditate upon what you believe and test how true or false it Really is and why). We need Reason and cold logic in the Progressive/Leftist movement not, lunacy and mindless zealotry.
  • rosswolfe
    Reason with a capital "R" and cold logic -- this gets my Enlightenment blood stirring. Rational Marxist critique.
  • roguecamera
    First of all, Bart, I do not believe that you represent any idea, concept, or attitude of the left/liberal/progressive movement. I'm guessing that you are a Glenn Beck watching, Rush Lumbaugh listening, Neo-Con. That is why you are pushing "reason and cool logic," which in your 'evolutionary evolutionist' (?) mind, means complacency, compliance, and control. In a nutshell, you do not want anything happening that could impact the bottom line of the corporate world.

    Yes, P.E.T.A. is my ilk. Yes, vegans are my ilk. And yes, our country (U.S.A.) is sacrificing its hard earned freedoms and constitutional protections, in order to best serve your corporate profits.

    Do the crime; do the time. Sure. But make that EQUAL time. That is, trespass is trespass. Vandalism is vandalism. Trespass and vandalism are not terrorism, even if they impact your profits or stock price.

    Animal testing does not work, and is not needed. Torturing animals is wrong. Some people feel very strongly about this. And yes, I am one of their 'ilk' too.
  • JillianSpeck
    I feel it is unfair to generalize vegans as you have. I have a good understanding of humans evolutionary past however my personal point of view as a vegan living in North America is that I have the opportunity to live a healthy life without causing another being harm (human or otherwise). I have a deep respect for all forms of life and simply feel no need to sacrifice another life for my own, why would I when I have the option not to, simple as that. For the record though humans are omnivorous. Also I would like to make a correction to your post, we need to consume 8 amino acids our body cannot produce while most foods contain these amino acids few contain them in the proper quantities to constitute a "complete protein". While egg whites and soy protein isolate are the highest rated complete proteins you should know that meat is rated with hemp, soybean, buckwheat, spirulina, and quinoa among some others. Also I can strongly relate to the way you feel about radicals tainting your political position, I feel the same when people associate veganism to supporting P.E.T.A.. Please do not avert the fist to my eye to save your own face.
  • Kelly
    Typical to label those that want a peaceful world without violence (for all living beings). The abolitionists and the suffragettes both went through the same thing. Conquering speciesism is another battle to advance empathy and compassion. I tend to think that labeling activists this way is a 'right wing conservative' viewpoint. I support liberating, without violence, any animal that is in danger.
  • Great writing - Will visit again..
  • ConcernedCitizen
    Mallory, Oh Mallory - Sad but True... YOU are NOT 'Pro Green OR Pro Animal Rights' .
    If You Think/Believe that it would be/is Wrong to $Financially Impact Any/EveryBody (Industry,Corporations,Etc.) That $Profit From the *Pain,Suffering,Torture,DEATH* of Others ? If You Really Truly DO Believe that? YOU = NOT 'Pro RIGHTs' (Of/For AnyThing)

    THEE / What is W R O N G is The $Financial Gain from the KILLing,
    DEATH of Other ~LivingBeings~.

    EveryBody SHOULD Know (Inherintely) Thee DIFFERENCE Between
    RIGHT - WRONG

    $Profit From Death = W R O N G
    'Interference' Of/With ^ Those Profits = R I G H T (as RIGHT as it GETS)

    siiiigh
  • Mallory:
    I've never said that the actions you listed aren't crimes, and I also haven't said that the problem here is those activists going to prison for their crimes. The problem is that the government is singling out one group of people for much, much harsher treatment than others who commit the same crimes, and it's politically motivated.

    Bigger than that, though, the true danger of all this "terrorism" rhetoric is that it's having a chilling effect, and making people afraid to use their First Amendment rights. Regardless of how you feel about illegal tactics, or environmentalism, that should be a concern to everyone.
  • Mallory
    The solution would appear to be simple: Stop commiting crimes in the pursuit of the 'green' movement. If you are destroying property, threatening people, commiting arson, grave-robbing, theft, and assault, then you deserve to go to prison. If you use the threat, or the fear, of having such crimes commited to further your cause, then you are using terror tactics, and are therefore a terrorist.

    I'm pro-green, and pro-animal rights, but I strongly disagree with the criminal tactics used by the green extremists. Hurting people - whether physically, emotionally, or financially - is wrong. No matter how important your cause is to you, the ends do not justify the means.
  • Hmm.
    Mallory,
    Hurting people, whether physically, emotional, or financially, is not wrong in any case. What an offensive, ignorant thing to say. Humans hurt non-humans and the environment in every way possible every day. Why should we have the luxury of being protected?
  • Mel: Sorry for the eye twitch :) I definitely don't enjoy being the bearer of infuriating news, but at the same time it is always refreshing to hear that there are still folks that give a damn about the way things are going. Will
  • Mel
    I just thought that you would enjoy to know that my eye actually began twitching while I was reading that. (It happens on occasion when I am extremely vexed.)
  • Please check out: Five Days In Babylon for further reading on the ELF.
  • Willy
    There is so much wrong with this article. First, let me say upfront that it is ridiculous that certain activists are labeled as terrorists when their motives and methods have nothing to do with terrorism. However, this article emits a huge aura of playing the victim. Poor, poor environmentalists.... Hardly anybody actually believes activists are eco-terrorists. The people referred to as eco-terrorists are those who actually are terrorists: the ones who set fire to people's vehicles because they're so self-righteous they think that it's their place to decide what vehicle someone should drive, and there are violent consequences if you disagree with them. The people who don't seem to understand that setting fire to those vehicles puts far more pollutants in the atmosphere than the vehicle running in good condition ever would over the course of 100000 miles.
  • dp
    oh willy, while i agree the tactic of burning things is incoherent with the strategy of protecting the environment, the rest of what you say is misguided and illogical.

    violence is actions that harm or kill people. it is impossible to justify regarding destruction of property being classified as violent or dangerous, yet the companies that produce products which are dangerous to people and other species are given a free pass. property and profits are not anywhere on the same level as a human life, and you have argued that it is fine to damage people but not property. it is completely despicable to even attempt to call someone challenging corporate power self-righteous or that they are deciding what people should or should not do, even if they are, and excuse big businesses who have literally spent the past century controlling our policies and laws to favor themselves at the expense of the health of all of us, and control behavior of citizens and consumers and control our options of what we can purchase. i agree, it is wrong to control the options for others, and that is what environmentalists challenge when they take on industries that try to prohibit any check on their pursuit of profits. the processes of law and policy making in this country have been closed to the public and any voice that is critical, so people look for ways outside of that to challenge what must be challenged. too often their actions do not work to that effect and too often negatively affect public opinion, but if we focus on the people taking those actions or the actions themselves and do not ask WHY they took those actions and WHAT they were attempting to do, we are foolish and complicit in our own undoing.
  • Hmm, I'm quite confused by many parts of your comment. Most importantly, I have never "argued that it is fine to damage people but not property." Sorry, I'm not sure where you are coming from.
  • Thanks for taking the time to try and educate the public on what is going on. Though I am getting more and more disheartened as each day passes by, feeling like these efforts are turning on deaf ears.
  • Cedar
    Hi Will,

    Thanks for your commitment, I've relied on you to keep me updated but I'm curious why you've kept Chris McIntosh? He clearly is no longer part of the movement anymore. Such a pity for this guy who apparently walked over to the dark side.

    Cheers,


    Cedar
  • Great suggestion, Gumby, I'll add in a few lines on both.
  • Gumby
    Once again, Will, your skill at connecting all the dots hits a homer. Perhaps maybe a mention of current investigations in the Midwest and the grand jury subpoenas coming out of Pennsylvania? Keep rockin' it!
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