Hi Will
Not that you didn't already know this, but I thought you'd be interested in the article below. Having been stalked by the boston PD for 2 years on my myspace account a few years ago, i feel very strongely about this issue. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100316/ap_on_hi_te...

Hi,
Do you know of a web site that comprehensively lists state animal enterprise laws all in one place?
Thanks!

The only state "animal enterprise" laws I am familiar with are those that come under the various state departments of agricutures,....they generally have first jurisdiction over animal-auctions, breeding operations, pet shops, feedlots, exotics, zoos, etc. Hope this helps.

Hi Delci--
Not that I know of. But it's actually on my list of "to-dos" for the site. I think it'd be really useful.

Hey, check out the "Anti-Green" "Green is the New Red" site;

http://greenisthenewred.org/

[Says Login Below, but damned if I see where, except over there under Meta. So I guess I’m a guest again. This is a copy of something I sent to some friends. I couldn’t find an email address for this site or for Will Potter, either.]

On Infiltrating Wrong Thinkers - Harvard Paper:

Them Truthers need infiltratin’. See, I TOLD folks if they didn’t speak out when they came for the animal activists (violators of the Animal Enterprise “Terrorism” Act), they’d come for their own brand of trouble-maker next.

The paper referenced below urges the infilitration of Truthers and any other conspiracy theorists, cause everybody knows there’s no such thing as a conspiracy. It’s a mythical creature, like a dragon. Like one of those great and terrible dragons that destroys whole kingdoms, devouring all that is innocent and good in them, especially virgins. Anybody who accepts conspiracy theories and, thereby, questions their own government, not just those who actively sound the alarm, not just those who sign petitions (thereby making themselves inelligible to work in the White House), but even those who only tell pollsters they have suspicions, need to be brought under the watchful eye of our protective federal law enforcement agencies. ”[T]he paper by Sunstein and Vermeule specifically mentioned as the targets of its advocated ’infiltration,' the 16% of Americans who responded to a Scripps-Howard Poll in 2006 that it was either very likely or somewhat likely that ’the collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings.’ Funny this was from Harvard; I’d have thought Yale. Maybe their rivalry is a fiction like that between Democrats and Republicans. And, of course, it’s “Twin Towers plus One.”

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract...

Abstract:
Many millions of people hold conspiracy theories; they believe that powerful people have worked together in order to withhold the truth about some important practice or some terrible event. A recent example is the belief, widespread in some parts of the world, that the attacks of 9/11 were carried out not by Al Qaeda, but by Israel or the United States. Those who subscribe to conspiracy theories may create serious risks, including risks of violence, and the existence of such theories raises significant challenges for policy and law. The first challenge is to understand the mechanisms by which conspiracy theories prosper; the second challenge is to understand how such theories might be undermined. Such theories typically spread as a result of identifiable cognitive blunders, operating in conjunction with informational and reputational influences. A distinctive feature of conspiracy theories is their self-sealing quality. Conspiracy theorists are not likely to be persuaded by an attempt to dispel their theories; they may even characterize that very attempt as further proof of the conspiracy. Because those who hold conspiracy theories typically suffer from a crippled epistemology, in accordance with which it is rational to hold such theories, the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups. Various policy dilemmas, such as the question whether it is better for government to rebut conspiracy theories or to ignore them, are explored in this light.

How about an apron/sticker, that says, "Flesh, is for Zombies" and "Vegetarianism is Environmentalism" ?

I have been unable to load your banner on any of my sites. More info here

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2F...

I sent your take action page to everyone on my e-mail list. Now no one is taking me seroiusly because these instructions do not work. Please update & correct these errors. Also, providing a clear contact area would be helpful, thanks!

@Christine:

I am not sure what you mean by not being able to load the banner. The banners linked to on this page are all active, and there is code included:
http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/action/

The link you posted is to a RSS feed validator--but you are trying to load a single page, not a feed. I think that is the problem.

Van Jones ?

are you going to do a piece on the green-red scare job done on Van Jones ?

I know he is pretty lighton, but he is a big scalp.

go for it

cheers

-N

Will, I thought you would like to read this email I got from the CEO of Novartis. I wrote to him urging that his company severs it's ties with Huntingdon Life Sciences. I sent an email and I am now associating myself with criminal activity such as blackmail and extortion? WTF.

I hate to say this but it's just going to get worse. Pretty soon if anyone just speaks negatively about an animal enterprise, it could theoretically hurt their profits so therefore they could be charged under the AETA.

Dear Ms. Wilson,

I have received your e-mail and similar ones from others, and want to respond to clarify a few points, although I know that you and others may ignore or dismiss my views.

I first want to underscore our mission as a company. At Novartis, we are dedicated to research and development that seeks new medicines to alleviate patient suffering, which I know well from my personal experience and from years as a physician treating patients. In the context of our work, we have committed to a global approach to animal welfare that follows the highest quality and most stringent global standards. Within our company, we have put in place what we call a 3-R program, which aims at replacing, reducing and refining the use of animals in experiments. Unfortunately, today, also due to regulatory requirements worldwide, there is no equivalent substitute for some animal testing. At Novartis, 60 experts control the adherence to our very high standards, and we are determined to also apply clear quality standards to our suppliers, much as we do in the field of clinical research or manufacturing.

You may have been misinformed and perhaps did not know that Novartis has not worked with Huntington Life Sciences for some time. Moreover, we are also engaged in an ongoing open dialogue with animal welfare organizations who are interested in a constructive exchange.

Needless to say, we strongly condemn the use of violence and terrorist tactics – for whatever rationale – as a substitute for meaningful, productive dialogue. As the author of the e-mail received, you should be aware that willingly or not you are associating yourself with criminal activity, such as extortion and blackmail.

Anybody who by his or her actions ultimately tries to stop medical progress and access to better, potentially life-saving medicines for millions of patients and for animals, who benefit from our animal health products, should be ashamed.

Daniel Vasella

I thought the following message from Pastors for Peace might have some relevant advice, so, FWIW, and since I can’t find a better way to send this, I’m pasting it below. No doubt you’re already aware of all this, but, for one thing, I thought it might be encouraging to know that there are other causes also resisting the same sort of oppression.   JM
___________________________________________________

Coming off the great success of the 20th Friendshipment Caravan to Cuba, we want thank all of you for your support, which was vitally
important to making this Caravan a huge success.

We want also to notify all of our network, as we have the Caravanistas themselves, that immediately upon return, infact before my return to
the office, the FBI had visited the IFCO/Pastors for Peace office. Yesterday we learned that Ignacio Meneses of the US/Cuba Labor
Exchange, who travelled to Cuba along with the Venceremos Brigade, recently received a visit by the FBI at his home. Because now two
persons who travelled to Cuba in August have received visits from the FBI, we thought it would be appropriate to share the information that
we sent out to the Caravanistas on August 18th, 2009, to our whole network.

We want to inform you that the IFCO/Pastors for Peace office received a ìvisitî from two FBI agents only one day after the Mexico/US border crossing. On Aug 4th agents arrived saying that they were doing ìcommunity outreachî and stopped by our office to chat and talk with us.
They directly asked if they could come in and talk with us. Of course, we followed the same advice we give everybody who travels with us. We said, ìNo, you cannot come in.î We asked for their address and promised to have our attorney write to them. Our staff then immediately sat down, wrote a statement to describe in detail exactly what had transpired, who said what- every detail. We did this while the visit was fresh in our memories so that we would be less likely to forget any details. These statements/affidavits are in the hands of our attorney.

During orientation and the ìreentry meetingî you were told all the Caravanistas that the FBI might visit them, or their friends, family or co-workers. This is why we briefed them on their rights when the FBI knocks, we are now extending this briefing to our entire network. You are under no obligation to talk with the FBI or let them into your home or workplace. We advise you to get their contact information and let them
know that your attorney will be in touch with them.

A copy of the booklet "When an Agent Knocks," published by the Center for Constitutional Rights is attached. It is also important to let IFCO know immediately if you have been visited by the FBI- and to always make sure to get the cards and badge numbers of any officers that may visit you. Most of all we must remember not to talk to the FBI or let them into our homes. Also if any of you have ever received a letter from OFAC, don't answer the letter. Instead, immediately make a copy of the letter and the front and back of the envelope and send it to IFCO. We will inform you on how to proceed from this point.

If you have any questions or hesitations, please feel free to raise them with us, call, e-mail or write the office.

- Lucius Walker

IFCO/PASTORS FOR PEACE
418 West 145th Street, 3-FL.
New York NY 10031
tel: 212.926.5757 - fax 212.926.5842 - e-mail ifco@igc.org

I forgot the link

http://www.beaker.com/#

Check out the over the top head and the scare tactics on this professional pharmaceutical blog and on the embedded broadcast. Why isn't arson for insurance by property owners considered terrorism?

Hi Will,

I have your plenary speech at AR2009 in myspace: www.myspace.com/AnthonyMarr --> click "View My Videos" (right underneath the white dog). Enjoy.

Anthony

hey will have you seen the nonsense over at greenisthenewred.ORG?

maybe if this email is being monitored, the monitor will read this encrypted message:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Good Luck!

Hi Will, I know you are very busy, but regarding laws of leafletting in general in the US, is there a good website or book that gives this information, general guidelines, such as stapling leaflets to a telephone post or leaving leaflets on car windows.

Hi!

Would you please publicize this petition on your website? We need to get the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act (AETA) amended or overturned.

http://www.change.org/farm_animal_rights_moveme...

Thanks,
Kaye

Hi!

I think it is great that you are blogging about how Greens are really persecuted in the US. I think the next step is to encourage your readers to action.
If enough people contact their elected politicians over and over and over again, maybe we can change the law.

Hey Will,
Watched you on Democracy Now! recently. Great job. Amy Goodman was in Silver City for a presentation right after that, what a great speaker! She had an impressive turnout at Western NM Univ. Keep up the good work. Ron

Thanks, Ron!

I agree that more police makes everything less safer, i'm not a fan of the police state this country is becoming. I'm not a fan of the government either, i'd identify most closely with libertarian ideals. Now I agree that everyone's First Amendment rights should be protect, and that includes any speech. I would not call using that right terrorism. Because it is not, but property destruction is. My favorite method is peaceful persuasion. That's the only way to go about it. The Free State Project is a great example of that concept. All I'm saying is that property destruction, no matter what political agenda you are trying to push, should not be supported, it should be viewed as reckless and violent behavior with the sole purpose of instilling fear, because that's what it is. While I don't necessarily agree with your movement, I agree with the idea of bringing people together to support a cause that you feel is important. Just be careful how you advertise it.

Hello. I saw above that people should comment if they've been harassed in regard to their political view and animal rights activism. Well, I have not been harassed, but I have of sorts harassed someone because of their defending of violent actions in the name of animals. Now, i've looked over your website, and it seems nearly useless. I see the word "terrorist" all over this website, and it got my attention because I label some animal rights or earth activism terrorism. Not all of it. I'm all in favor of peaceful protests, boycotting, those kinds of things to get your point across. But once you start destroying property, your cause goes right out the window. Now you are viewed as violent, bad people. Even if don't think you are, that's how you are going to be viewed. Plus, I don't support violence in any case unless violence is used against you and your family. I just felt someone with my viewpoint needed to post on here and perhaps set a record straight

@Fixxxer:

Thank you for commenting. However, I should note that nothing in this website is about defending illegal actions or discussing tactics. It's about whether First Amendment activity and, at the very worst, property destruction, should be labeled as "terrorism." Regardless of how you feel about animal rights activists or environmentalists, it's a waste of law enforcement resources and it makes us all less safe.

will, have you seen this new crap?
how is it news to do work for the fbi?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/21/fbi.domesti...

im sure you heard about this today, will...http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_domestic_terrorist
i didnt even have to scroll lower than the headlines and knew it was going to be an a.r. activist they were referring to.

Will,

any thoughts on why the anti-defamation league is interested in "eco-terrorists"? i don't see how this fits into their mission. http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/Ecoterrorism.as...

I attended your presentation at Drake today and just wanted to thank you so much for coming.

It was a real eye-opener and I thought you did a great job speaking objectively about a topic you're obviously passionate about (a sign of a quality journalist). It was just a great speech overall.

Best wishes!

Thank you for coming to the presentation, and for the kind note, Mary!

To speak out could cost......I should know. I have been called terrorist!!!!
Just thought I would share this.

"In an earlier interview with the Weekly, Spring labeled her opponents--including 68-year-old Torske--as "terrorists." (See "No More No Kill," Currents, Dec. 18, 2008.) Some observers say that rhetoric is quite calculated, as part of a possible Hermitage strategy to lump Torske, LaRue and Heck together under the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act. Passed in 2006, the law was aimed at prosecuting radical animal-rights groups such as the Animal Liberation Front. "

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Currents/Cont...

If you haven't already seen it:

http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=2009...

Figured I would just post it here rather than email.

Im sorry but, no one truly fears, "Eco Terrorists", If all the activists in the world came together no one would care other than the oil company they stood in front of.

This showed up in a search I did so I thought I'd pass it on.
The following first paragraph is really the only entertaining part. After that, he blends deep ecologists, ecologists, NASA, the guv'mint, and Henry Thoreau into one jumbled up big bad commie plot.

"For a long time I have felt that the Ecology movement was the new religion for secularists. The Internet even has a web page for “The Church Of Deep Ecology”, but lately I have begun to feel that many, not all, Ecology leaders and fellow travelers are members of the resurgent American Communist Party!"

http://rotenochsen.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/is-...

Building Unity, R U ?

So what is up with your MySpace account blocking
both of my profiles ? "If" that profile has a problem
a "problem" with me (as it seems to), it could have
sent an e-mail saying so and what about. I figure
that I had probably sent it too much information.

Seems to me that the feds do not need to deem
activists as eco-terrorists. If they just let us be, we
could probably shoot each other in the foot often
enough to be ineffective, anyway.


The Toxic Reverend
http://www.myspace.com/toxicreverend
aka
Justice Is Homeless
http://www.myspace.com/justiceishomeless

"Toxic Reverend":

Yes, it looks like those accounts were blocked because of a very high volume of emails and comments. Please keep in mind that the Green Scare MySpace account has over 4,000 friends, and can be quite time consuming to manage. Blocking those emails wasn't a personal attack. I hope you understand. Best, Will

Here's a little on a story of potential interest:

Some here: http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2008/12/...

here: http://www.peacechicken.com/2008/12/05/action-i...

and here: http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/swat-team.htm

On Monday, December 1, a SWAT team with semi-automatic rifles entered the private home of the Stowers family in LaGrange, Ohio, herded the family onto the couches in the living room, and kept guns trained on parents, children, infants and toddlers, from approximately 11 AM to 8 PM. The team was aggressive and belligerent. The children were quite traumatized. At some point, the "bad cop" SWAT team was relieved by another team, a "good cop" team that tried to befriend the family. The Stowers family has run a very large, well-known food cooperative called Manna Storehouse on the western side of the greater Cleveland area for many years.

[...]

Presumably Manna Storehouse might eventually be charged with running a retail establishment without a license. Why then the Gestapo-type interrogation for a 3rd degree misdemeanor charge? This incident has raised the ominous specter of a restrictive new era in State regulation and enforcement over the nation's private food supply.

From a press release received today:
Embargoed until December 11, 2008 at 7:00am EST

New York Times Ad Condemns Humane Society of the United States for Terror Fundraising
Consumer Group: HSUS vice president will keynote benefit for animal-rights terrorism group

Washington -- A full-page ad from the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom will appear in the front section of the December 11 New York Times, accusing the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) of helping an animal-rights terrorism group raise money.

On December 13, HSUS Senior Vice President Heidi Prescott is scheduled to deliver a keynote address at The Humane League of Philadelphia’s holiday fundraising party. The Humane League of Philadelphia was founded in July 2002 as the Philadelphia chapter of Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty (SHAC), an organization convicted in 2006 -- along with six of its national leaders -- on federal domestic terrorism charges.

The Humane League of Philadelphia’s own president, Nick Cooney, was convicted in 2006 of making terroristic threats against the children of a pharmaceutical company employee.

The Center for Consumer Freedom’s ad includes a timeline showing the evolution of The Humane League of Philadelphia, and reads in part:
The Humane Society of the United States claims to be a mainstream, peaceful
advocate for animals. Why is it helping a terrorist group raise money?

There’s a lot you don’t know about the Humane Society of the United States. Learn more at www.HumaneWatch.org
Speaking about the Times ad, Center for Consumer Freedom Director of Research David Martosko said: “It’s shocking but true. The Humane Society of the United States is not the mainstream animal-protection group it pretends to be. Consorting with the violent underbelly of the animal rights movement is a clear sign that this group has lost its way. America's dog and cat shelters could benefit from a genuine national Humane Society. But HSUS is just a PETA knock-off with more money and the same warped agenda.”

Martosko continued: “The Humane League of Philadelphia and SHAC Philly are one and the same. SHAC is a convicted terrorist group that has targeted its victims and their families for many years. It’s remarkable that the Humane Society of the United States thought it could get away with lending support to these people.”

The New York Times ad is available at http://humanewatch.org/HSUSad_NYT.pdf

Thanks Mark! I actually already have that up this morning. Here's a link.

Yet another PETA video investigating turkey abuses. When will these abhorrent abuses ever end! The only good thing about the release of this video is that hopefully it will save the life of a few turkey's before Thanksgiving!

See video here: http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/turkey_inves...

Animal rights group's undercover video captures abuse of turkeys at .Va. farms
By Associated Press
11:02 AM EST, November 19, 2008
LEWISBURG, W.Va. (AP) _ A video released by an animal rights group on Tuesday claims to show horrific abuse of turkeys at West Virginia farms operated by major global poultry grower Aviagen Inc.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said the video, which includes workers stomping on turkeys' heads and twisting their necks to kill them, was shot by an undercover investigator who worked on the companies' farms for more than two months.

The undercover worker, who was not identified, described stifling, dusty barns where the animals were kept and caught video of several workers killing turkeys, slamming them into metal cages and bragging about previous abuse of the animals.

A company official told The New York Times that they "condemn the abuse of any of the animals in our care and will take swift action to address these issues." They said they would investigate the allegations, which could lead to firing employees who were involved.


A call Wednesday morning to the Alabama headquarters of Aviagen North America was not immediately returned. A call to subsidiary Aviagen Turkeys Inc., in Lewisburg, W.Va., also was not immediately returned.

PETA filed a criminal complaint on Tuesday alleging animal cruelty, according to the Greenbrier County Sheriff's Department.

In West Virginia, felony animal cruelty can be punished by one to three years in prison and up to $5,000 in fines.

Norfolk, Va.-based PETA campaigns most years against the practices of turkey growers before Thanksgiving and encourages Americans to find vegetarian substitutes for the bird, such as tofu. The video showing the turkey abuse was posted on PETA's Web site.

In 2004, PETA carried out a similar undercover video sting in West Virginia against Texas-based Pilgrim's Pride at the company's Moorefield plant.

The company fired 11 employees and provided animal cruelty training throughout its North American operations after that, but a Hardy County grand jury in 2005 refused to indict any of the workers involved.

Will,
I was wondering if you knew anything about the military brigade deployed in the U.S. for the elections. I heard, I think Amy Goodman reported on it, that we are currently a police state. Do you know anything about this?

Thanks,

Waterkeeper Alliance is sponsoring a national CAFO conference in North Carolina in January to construct a national strategy against the continuing environmental abuses of the CAFO industry. If you are interested, I would be happy to put you on our conference email list. Hannah

Thanks, Eddie!

Hello Will,
I have added your blog site to my twitter account as a way to promote your cause.

Eddie ( remove "not_" from email)
http://twitter.com/Regietto

Will, didn't know if you'd seen this article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

They're correcting the mistake, or so they say. Of course the state has no say in who is on the watch list, and we as citizens have no way of confirming whether we were on the list, or have been removed from it...

Still, as far as the mindset of the general public goes, it seems like a hopeful article.

i didnt see where i could email you, so ill just post this news story i just read here. i feel like it may be useful to you in the future, or just an interesting read for now. actually, not interesting, more like terrifying!

Mammals Facing Extintion Threat

I'd like details or a website about the Vermont Law Review Symposium : The threat of Unpopular Ideas.

Glad you found the site, Stephen. And thanks for posting that link--quite an odd bunch of quotes, many of which seem dubious, at best. Hatchet job seems right.

Just recently discovered your site. Disturbing reading, but it at proves that there at least a few awake and aware people in the world, hopefully enough to eventually make a difference.
I thought you might be interested in this link http://www.peta-sucks.com/araquotes.htm as you can gather it the usual hatchet job, but ake a look at the bottom of the page, the last quote under the category 'terrorism', its many things, but terrorism???

Let's start working together to empower the people. Let your supporters get your message out!

contact me if you'd like to learn more. It cost you nothing, seriously.

www.saysme.tv

The Japanese Coast Guard has shot Paul Watson in the chest ( he was wearing a kevlar vest, or he would be dead ) and threw grenades at this ship

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/03/393156.html

Don't know if you've seen this yet: http://news.aol.com/story/_a/4-luxury-model-hom...

Good afternoon,

I just wanted to take a second and point out an exciting conference that is coming up in October, the 2007 Environmental Performance Summit. This summit is devoted to improving environmental stewardship by equipping federal, state and local government managers at environmental and natural resource agencies with the tools to run their organizations with efficiency, transparency and accountability. The summit has a website: www.environmentalperformance.org. If you could post the link it would really help generate buzz for this great event! Thank you!

Over on the Amazon blog, there's a report on a forthcoming book called Green is the new Red, White, and Blue. I added a comment with a link to here correcting the inaccuracy.

Great blog!

If the economics don't work, recycling efforts won't either.
As our little contribution to make this economics of recycling more appealing, http://LivePaths.com blogs about people and companies that make money selling recycled or reused items, provide green services or help us reduce our dependency on non renewable resources.



PS How can I get a link back to your blog?

Luis

we did a show on the Catalyst bust/greenscare
a year ago.
http://sourcecode.freespeech.org/sc302Ecotage

feel free to link to it

Title: EcoDissent not Terrorism
Description: In George Bush's America, if you're an
environmentalist, you're a terrorist. SourceCode examines civil disobedience under the Patriot Act. Come to Prescott, Arizona, where a recent sting resulted in the death of one person accused under the new definition of terrorism. Hear from a former Earthfirst!er on why she took direct action against a power company. ACLU and Center for Constitutional Rights tell you what risks you face in defending the environment. Ruckus Society makes a case for nonviolent civil disobedience. And a video of the first monkeywrenching action with Edward Abbey at the Glen Canyon Dam.

Scary stuff- there has to be a way to do something- we all need to do some deep digging- this just isn't right or fair or just. Glad you came to Milwaukee and informed us- thanks so much. Oh, and by the way- how were the wings???

Great site name, & really interesting website.

I was thinking how much I'd love to have a shirt with your logo on it. Get people talking.

Keep up the good work Will.

Hi Will, here is a group pict from the HLS's president demo on the upper west side, no great shakes but here it is.

http://thinman.com/images/HLS_demo_feb_26_07_sm...

I am taking an indirect route to the environment through the study of empathy. I am now hoping to make it my profession:

http://thinman.com/empathy

john

ps, i just looked at it in full size for the first time.. nice contrast between the winter day and the vividness of the demo signs..

I am getting tired of this regime.

To punch back at the attack on free speech, our activist group just named itself:

Feminist Eco-Terrorists - People for a Peaceful Planet. We're in Seattle. All feminist vegans welcome. satyasteele at yahoo.com

Will,
You may have already caught this article in the New York times on the booming fur trade. There's a brief mention of AETA on page 1...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/24/business/your...

I'm glad I finnally found this site, I've been looking to see if anyone was organizing around this issue since I found out about it. Didn't find out about the Dec 7th protest in time, but I offer my support for action in the future. Not enough people know about this, and the people that do, even people who are otherwise politcally active, seem not to be as bothered by it as they should be.

Is there no recourse on the way the AETA bill vote was
(mis)handled today? IE, move up the vote by 3 hours,
only a handful of reps present. The whole scenario
smacks of 'same old' sneaky, corrupt politics. We,
the little ones in the trenches with the animals, flooded
the reps with emails, phone calls, faxes, possilby to
some (positive) avail---then 'they' change the vote time!

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