Comments on: The War That Never Ends… http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/the-war-that-never-ends/391/ "Eco-terrorism," environmental activism and animal rights activism Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jake http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/the-war-that-never-ends/391/#comment-146137 Jake Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:23:59 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=391#comment-146137 This war wouldn't have started* in the first place is what I meant to say instead of stopped. This war wouldn’t have started* in the first place is what I meant to say instead of stopped.

]]> By: Jake http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/the-war-that-never-ends/391/#comment-146089 Jake Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:02:23 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=391#comment-146089 Britney, I just wanted to comment to your statement. This isn't an attack on you or anything, just merely commenting on the identification with this system we all seem to have been conditioned to have. "We shouldn’t be over in Iraq in the first place." Since when did you and I and everyone else get involved in this war? WE never declared war on Iraq, and WE aren't the ones fighting this war and if it were up to us, this war wouldn't have stopped in the first place. They aren't OUR troops in Iraq. We need to stop identifying with those in power that rule over us, they are completely seperate from us and we have no say so in the sickening actions that they and this civilization continue to perpetuate. I'm not the one selling away the national forests to big corporations, I'm not the one allowing Exxon/Mobile to continue on, I'm not the one allowing this culture to committ genocide against brown people, and so on, and so forth. Sure we have a certain responsibility for the actions of those in power, but that's only because we don't stop them. We were born into this civilization, into a system which has waged war upon the earth and every living being, the first step to stopping it is to stop identifying with it and to stop identifying with those in power. As Derrick Jensen has said: "Because the global economy is killing the planet before our eyes (premise one) and because it is not redeemable (premise six), it is wrong to think that personal lifestyle changes we make within the current system can save the planet. While we are not responsible for existing in the current system because we did not create it, we are responsible for doing our part to destroy the system, as this is the only way to stop the destruction of the planet." Britney, I just wanted to comment to your statement. This isn’t an attack on you or anything, just merely commenting on the identification with this system we all seem to have been conditioned to have.
“We shouldn’t be over in Iraq in the first place.”
Since when did you and I and everyone else get involved in this war? WE never declared war on Iraq, and WE aren’t the ones fighting this war and if it were up to us, this war wouldn’t have stopped in the first place. They aren’t OUR troops in Iraq. We need to stop identifying with those in power that rule over us, they are completely seperate from us and we have no say so in the sickening actions that they and this civilization continue to perpetuate. I’m not the one selling away the national forests to big corporations, I’m not the one allowing Exxon/Mobile to continue on, I’m not the one allowing this culture to committ genocide against brown people, and so on, and so forth.
Sure we have a certain responsibility for the actions of those in power, but that’s only because we don’t stop them. We were born into this civilization, into a system which has waged war upon the earth and every living being, the first step to stopping it is to stop identifying with it and to stop identifying with those in power.
As Derrick Jensen has said:

“Because the global economy is killing the planet before our eyes (premise one) and because it is not redeemable (premise six), it is wrong to think that personal lifestyle changes we make within the current system can save the planet. While we are not responsible for existing in the current system because we did not create it, we are responsible for doing our part to destroy the system, as this is the only way to stop the destruction of the planet.”

]]> By: Britney French http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/the-war-that-never-ends/391/#comment-146040 Britney French Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:35:32 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=391#comment-146040 Yes, you are right this war will never end because once you start a war it's impossible to just get out....... We shouldn't be over in Iraq in the first place. Yes, you are right this war will never end because once you start a war it’s impossible to just get out……. We shouldn’t be over in Iraq in the first place.

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