Comments on: Internal Industry Documents Show Plans for Labeling Activists as “Eco-Terrorists” (Part 1 of 3) http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:05:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Michelle http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/comment-page-1/#comment-234419 Michelle Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:48:06 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=796#comment-234419 Bravo, Will! Bravo, Will!

]]> By: Mat Thomas http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/comment-page-1/#comment-182562 Mat Thomas Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:38:08 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=796#comment-182562 The "IDA Issues Alert Opposing the AETA" is also listed on the site -- and I was the main staff writer for IDA immediately before, during & after the AETA controversy, and wrote all those alerts. Like Will, I guess I too am honored to be listed among the opposition. Thank you, members of the Animal Enterprise Protection Coalition, for reading what I expended so much effort on in those more carefree days! Please know that your support is greatly appreciated, and provides me with more motivation to keep working hard on the animals' behalf. The “IDA Issues Alert Opposing the AETA” is also listed on the site — and I was the main staff writer for IDA immediately before, during & after the AETA controversy, and wrote all those alerts. Like Will, I guess I too am honored to be listed among the opposition. Thank you, members of the Animal Enterprise Protection Coalition, for reading what I expended so much effort on in those more carefree days! Please know that your support is greatly appreciated, and provides me with more motivation to keep working hard on the animals’ behalf.

]]> By: Vegan Bites: http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/comment-page-1/#comment-182526 Vegan Bites: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:58:43 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=796#comment-182526 [...] Congress clueless about AETA: “The law marked a radical expansion of the “War on Terrorism,” and the most ambitious campaign yet by industry groups, corporations, and the politicians that represent them to demonize animal rights and environmental activists as “eco-terrorists.” Most people have never even heard of the law… including most members of Congress.” more >> [...] [...] Congress clueless about AETA: “The law marked a radical expansion of the “War on Terrorism,” and the most ambitious campaign yet by industry groups, corporations, and the politicians that represent them to demonize animal rights and environmental activists as “eco-terrorists.” Most people have never even heard of the law… including most members of Congress.” more >> [...]

]]> By: Branding Environmentalists as Terrorists « Earthfirstfoundation’s Blog http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/comment-page-1/#comment-182407 Branding Environmentalists as Terrorists « Earthfirstfoundation’s Blog Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:12:38 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=796#comment-182407 [...] Internal Industry Documents Show Plans for Labeling Activists as “Eco-Terrorists” (Part 1 of 3) [...] [...] Internal Industry Documents Show Plans for Labeling Activists as “Eco-Terrorists” (Part 1 of 3) [...]

]]> By: Will Potter http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/comment-page-1/#comment-182398 Will Potter Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:22:19 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=796#comment-182398 Thanks to Brandon, dylan, Tracy and everyone for all the supportive comments! Thanks to Brandon, dylan, Tracy and everyone for all the supportive comments!

]]> By: Will Potter http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/comment-page-1/#comment-182396 Will Potter Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:17:32 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=796#comment-182396 Andy, What is it you are saying is no big deal, the legislation, the documents, the tactics? I think on all of those, however, I would disagree. But more to your point about corporations being better organized. While it is certainly true that animal groups really dropped the ball on fighting this legislation, that doesn't mean that's how they got the law passed. The truth is, they didn't have public support, they didn't have Congressional support... and they knew it. Tomorrow's post, Part 2, focuses specifically on this point. I hope you'll check it out and let me know if that changes your perception at all. Andy,

What is it you are saying is no big deal, the legislation, the documents, the tactics?

I think on all of those, however, I would disagree. But more to your point about corporations being better organized. While it is certainly true that animal groups really dropped the ball on fighting this legislation, that doesn’t mean that’s how they got the law passed. The truth is, they didn’t have public support, they didn’t have Congressional support… and they knew it. Tomorrow’s post, Part 2, focuses specifically on this point. I hope you’ll check it out and let me know if that changes your perception at all.

]]> By: Lisamarie http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/comment-page-1/#comment-182392 Lisamarie Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:56:39 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=796#comment-182392 I've never heard of this new "law" until now, although I've heard of us vegans being refered to as extremists before. It just goes to show what a SAD, screwed up world we live in when it comes to people like us and the ALF who just want to do some good and bring some justice for the innocent in the world, and instead of waking up to the message that WE all need to wake up and applauding them they are arrested like the criminals that they are fighting against! SCARY just what tons of billions of dollars to toss around and buy this corp and that corp and industry off with can do. I know we've historically had other legal injustices to fight to abolish before that we've ultimately succeeded at, like slavery, women's suffrage, and child labor, but it looks like fighting for justice and freedom for animals is going to be the HARDEST, LONGEST, and most violently opposed movement of them all, for many decades and generations to come, so I guess we just have to keep our chins up the best we can and keep fighting and spreading the word and banding together the best we can! I’ve never heard of this new “law” until now, although I’ve heard of us vegans being refered to as extremists before.
It just goes to show what a SAD, screwed up world we live in when it comes to people like us and the ALF who just want to do some good and bring some justice for the innocent in the world, and instead of waking up to the message that WE all need to wake up and applauding them they are arrested like the criminals that they are fighting against! SCARY just what tons of billions of dollars to toss around and buy this corp and that corp and industry off with can do.
I know we’ve historically had other legal injustices to fight to abolish before that we’ve ultimately succeeded at, like slavery, women’s suffrage, and child labor, but it looks like fighting for justice and freedom for animals is going to be the HARDEST, LONGEST, and most violently opposed movement of them all, for many decades and generations to come, so I guess we just have to keep our chins up the best we can and keep fighting and spreading the word and banding together the best we can!

]]> By: Andy http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/comment-page-1/#comment-182347 Andy Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:20:10 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=796#comment-182347 Will -- This is really no big deal. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. The companies were better organized than we were. That's how they passed the law. It's that simple. That's the only way laws get passed. If our movement learned how to do real grassroots lobbying (instead of leaving it to the yutzes at HSUS), maybe we'd stand a chance next time. But you shouldn't hate these people. You should envy them. it sucks, but they're very good at this. Will — This is really no big deal. I think you’re making a mountain out of a molehill. The companies were better organized than we were. That’s how they passed the law. It’s that simple. That’s the only way laws get passed.

If our movement learned how to do real grassroots lobbying (instead of leaving it to the yutzes at HSUS), maybe we’d stand a chance next time. But you shouldn’t hate these people. You should envy them. it sucks, but they’re very good at this.

]]> By: Brandon becker http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/comment-page-1/#comment-182315 Brandon becker Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:12:23 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=796#comment-182315 As always, excellent work exposing the work of corporate-front groups. Keep it up! As always, excellent work exposing the work of corporate-front groups. Keep it up!

]]> By: dylan http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/internal-industry-documents-show-plans-for-labeling-activists-as-eco-terrorists-part-1-of-3/796/comment-page-1/#comment-182308 dylan Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:44:13 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=796#comment-182308 <A333 will potter for exposing this shit. <A333 will potter for exposing this shit.

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