Comments on: Humane Society Defends Donation to Eco-Terrorism Witch Hunt

By: Keep it posi

Keep it posi — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:47:06 +0000

While I understand that the California and U.S. governments have used these actions to commit some pretty serious oppression, I don't really like the continuing implication that these actions were carried out by government agents. That takes power away from the animal liberation movement. Whether or not it's true, I want that “Scientist” to KNOW that somebody tried to burn his house down. Government plots to harass activists don't coerce people into abandoning careers as murderers and torturers of innocent, helpless beings. Imagine if you were just getting out of college and deciding on a career and it's been long known that one possible concern of going into animal testing is that somebody may come in to your office one night and destroy 20 years worth of research, that's something to think about. Now what if choosing that career also meant you'd have to sleep with one eye open because your work endangered you and your family? I'm not even sure this whole hostage situation thing is 100% bad, the silver lining on that is, med-students (or bio-students or whatever lines of “Science” produces these monsters), as part of the public, are also under the impression that they could be taken hostage if they engage in these sort of atrocities.
On a side note, the Wu-Tang Clan has in fact been investigated by the FBI and ATF for gun running on tour in the mid to late 90s (for more info check their wikipedia).

By: easyVegan.info » Blog Archive » Ready, set, snip -n- tuck!

easyVegan.info » Blog Archive » Ready, set, snip -n- tuck! — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:31:33 +0000

[...] efficient use of the funds than the HSUS, which in the past has hoarded Katrina relief funds and offered a reward to help the FBI catch so-called eco-terrorists – among other offenses. [...]

By: CCF Smears Humane Society

CCF Smears Humane Society — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:04:13 +0000

[...] This is just ludicrous. The Humane Society does not help terrorists. The Humane Society does not fund terrorism. In fact, the Humane Society offered a reward for finding “eco-terrorists”. [...]

By: Debbie

Debbie — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:58:00 +0000

After carefully reading everyones response to this AETA, it’s amazing how misinformed so many of you are. The best one was the one about PETA and the HSUS killing homeless animals. Not one of you know the real details yet you are so quick to judge. Maybe instead of reading what you want to hear, doing a little investigating as to what these organizations really do. I have been a member of HSUS,PETA,Farm Sanctuary and others for many years. WE have visited their facilities and have been on many of events with them.
They have done a hell of alot more then any of you so called concerned compassionate citizens!! Animals have become nothing more then a commodity to many organizations, including the meat and dairy industry which is killing us with their chemicals to make a better profit. Also animal testing is 90% inaccurate and England is already using other methods which are available to us. The animals that are put to death by any of these organizations are either very sick or very old. PETA and the HSUS try to keep the young healthy ones alive to be adopted, which is why they try to promote no-kill shelters. No-kill meaning to let those animals who can live healthy normal lives. The ones who will only suffer will not be able to live in a no-kill facility!!! because it is inhumane!!! Those of you who take everything out of context, have another agenda and it is not in the best enterest of the animals and Wayne Pacelle, PETA and the other reputable organizations DO NOT condone terrorist acts!! And the article which mentioned that letter writting is inaffective, well guess what, it is December 4th 2008 and California has passed Proposition 2 on November 4th………compassion will prevail, as it has been proven!!! Thank god for those who do the research and know the truth!!!!!

By: Smite Me! [.net] » Blog Archive » Of course they did.

Smite Me! [.net] » Blog Archive » Of course they did. — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:22:21 +0000

[...] Obama voted for FISA; the HSUS offered up $2500 worth of donor monies as a bounty to help the FBI catch so-called “e…. [...]

By: Forager

Forager — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:57:37 +0000

I should have included the link to what the North American Animal LIberation Front Press Office said but didn’t think about it, I don’t know if this has already been posted on or anything but anyways, the link for those interested is
http://www.animalliberationpressoffice.org/Newsletter/index.htm
also in looking again for the article I found another comment on HSUS’ actions to support the State’s oppression of these groups from clear back in ‘05 but still is related to today:
http://www.animalliberationpressoffice.org/Newsletter/archives/sep2005/hsus.htm

By: Forager

Forager — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:57:00 +0000

“If not, what should HSUS have done?”
HSUS should support any activities which are effective in the liberation of animals if they truly believe in what they say they do. Of course, they are for animal rights as opposed to animal liberation so perhaps that justifies it all in their mind.
I like the post that the North American Animal Liberation Press Office put out on his statement. These mainstream groups show their true hypocrisies on a day to day basis with their actions, they claim to care about the animals and yet those at the top of HSUS take home more money then your average middle class worker does. And it’s the same with PETA who supports gassing of feral animals, and killing off of homeless animals while at the same time criticizing no-kill shelters, and calling for the freedom for all animals, as a next move, perhaps they would like to start hauling in wild animals and domesticating them to show where their motivations truly lie.
Personally, I feel that all of those mainstream organizations are useless. Whether an individual agrees with the tactics of the ALF and ELF or not, they are effective, and if you believe in animal liberation, that is what should matter to you. If those who want to get involved with organizations like HSUS, Green Peace, Sierra Club, and the others, and give them money and sign their petitions and write the letters they ask you to (which in their minds might be effective but c’mon, lets be realistic here, what Corporate representative or politician-if we can distinguish a difference between the two-is going to shudder at a bunch of letters coming in that he’s not going to read anyways) want to do that, fine, let them, let them imagine that by getting involved in these “feel good” organizations (as Paul Watson accurately put it) that they are making a difference, but don’t criticize others for choosing to take up tactics which are more effective.
I realize that it also comes from a pacifist vs violent perspective in which we get caught up in petty moralist arguments blinded by ethics dictated to us instead of seeing the larger amount of violence which is being caused by ignoring these atrocities. I think once we start calling them violent actions though is when we get caught up in the stupid mindset that property is more important than life. The actions of all of these so-called extreme groups, are actions which as Will has mentioned, haven’t hurt anyone, and yet they are violent? Yeah, and this is coming from people who probably don’t view driving a car as a violent action despite the significant amount of lives that car culture takes every year.

By: John Mayer

John Mayer — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:03:29 +0000

Attempted to comment on this site; no indication that my comments
will be posted, even though Mr. Pacelle‘s page says he invites
comments both pro and con.

Here‘s what I TRIED to post:

The so-called Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act is an attempt to muzzle
ALL animal rights activism; the HSUS endorsement of these police
state tactics is an endorsement of the repression of legitimate
protest in matters of animal rights and, by extension, in general. To
the best of my knowledge NO animal rights activists in the US have
injured or killed any human beings; attaching the world
“terrorist”
to even acts of civil disobedience such as freeing animals destined
for unspeakable torture – not simply as a strategy but to spare a few
animals pain – is to diminish the evil of the word and is an insult
to those who have suffered at the hands of real terrorists.

Your action is reminiscent of those during the McCarthy era who
turned against their fellows to save their own skins or to gain
advantage. Ultimately, such cowardice will not protect HSUS from
those corporations who profit from animal cruelty and who advance
their agenda by belittling and attacking all efforts to protect animals.

I have appreciated many of the HSUS activities, in particular your
opposition to breed specific laws. As a new graduate I am only now in
a position to donate to worthy causes. Yours was high on my list, but
I must now reconsider.

By: kelly g.

kelly g. — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:26:47 +0000

Frivolous arrest. One activist, Nathan Pope, who lives in the raided house, was arrested for felony perjury. He is being held in lieu of $100,000 bail.

Last week, a woman called in to the local radio show here in Kansas City; her husband had beaten her the night before – slammed her into a doorway while she was holding their two-year-old son – and she wanted advice on whether she should leave him. At the time of the call, he was in jail, waiting for someone to bail his sorry ass out. I forget what the total bail amount was, but the lucky party need only hand over $60 to the bail bondsman. ($600, maybe?)

So, to recap…terrorism against women, eh. Terrorism against paperwork? Will. Not. Be. Tolerated.

Oh, and f*ck the HSUS. If anyone’s thinking about donating money towards animal rescue efforts during natural disasters, look for small, local groups; HSUS & Co. will sweep in for a photo op and then offer to kill all the strays for you.

By: Keep it posi

Keep it posi — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:39:29 +0000

While I understand that the California and U.S. governments have used these actions to commit some pretty serious oppression, I don’t really like the continuing implication that these actions were carried out by government agents. That takes power away from the animal liberation movement. Whether or not it’s true, I want that “Scientist” to KNOW that somebody tried to burn his house down. Government plots to harass activists don’t coerce people into abandoning careers as murderers and torturers of innocent, helpless beings. Imagine if you were just getting out of college and deciding on a career and it’s been long known that one possible concern of going into animal testing is that somebody may come in to your office one night and destroy 20 years worth of research, that’s something to think about. Now what if choosing that career also meant you’d have to sleep with one eye open because your work endangered you and your family? I’m not even sure this whole hostage situation thing is 100% bad, the silver lining on that is, med-students (or bio-students or whatever lines of “Science” produces these monsters), as part of the public, are also under the impression that they could be taken hostage if they engage in these sort of atrocities.
On a side note, the Wu-Tang Clan has in fact been investigated by the FBI and ATF for gun running on tour in the mid to late 90s (for more info check their wikipedia).