Comments on: Humane Society Donates Money to “Eco-Terrorism” Witch Hunt, But Not Enough to Protect It From the Green Scare http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/ "Eco-terrorism," environmental activism and animal rights activism Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Conservative Women's Forum :: Chapel Hill, NC » Blog Archive » ENVIRONMENTAL GHOULS ATTACKING OUR CHILDREN http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/#comment-236402 Conservative Women's Forum :: Chapel Hill, NC » Blog Archive » ENVIRONMENTAL GHOULS ATTACKING OUR CHILDREN Sun, 10 Oct 2010 05:43:49 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=540#comment-236402 [...] is no joke to the children of animal research scientists at the University of California-Santa Cruz. Over the [...] [...] is no joke to the children of animal research scientists at the University of California-Santa Cruz. Over the [...]

]]> By: The Green War on Children | confused car insurance http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/#comment-236401 The Green War on Children | confused car insurance Sat, 09 Oct 2010 15:13:05 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=540#comment-236401 [...] is no joke to the children of animal research scientists at the University of California-Santa Cruz. Over the [...] [...] is no joke to the children of animal research scientists at the University of California-Santa Cruz. Over the [...]

]]> By: 'Go Green or We'll Kill Your Kids' says Richard Curtis Eco-Propaganda Shocker - Old Hippie's Forums http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/#comment-236400 'Go Green or We'll Kill Your Kids' says Richard Curtis Eco-Propaganda Shocker - Old Hippie's Forums Sat, 09 Oct 2010 02:22:23 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=540#comment-236400 [...] might actually talk to a family or two who find zero humor in environmental terrorism. Violence is no joke to the children of animal research scientists at the University of California-Santa Cruz. Over the [...] [...] might actually talk to a family or two who find zero humor in environmental terrorism. Violence is no joke to the children of animal research scientists at the University of California-Santa Cruz. Over the [...]

]]> By: Michelle Malkin » The Green War on Children http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/#comment-236399 Michelle Malkin » The Green War on Children Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:02:14 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=540#comment-236399 [...] is no joke to the children of animal research scientists at the University of California-Santa Cruz. Over the [...] [...] is no joke to the children of animal research scientists at the University of California-Santa Cruz. Over the [...]

]]> By: lantz. http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/#comment-234407 lantz. Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:46:48 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=540#comment-234407 Thanks for another excellent article, Will. Superbly written and thought provoking, as always. It's almost bizarre just how far this thing has gone. The degree to which history is repeating itself almost makes me feel as if I'm in a television show, Truman Show style, and everyone is laughing as I walk around uber-confused. I'm not laughing.<br><br>HSUS made a bad move. But we must understand: corporations are corporations; they do things that make them look good, that will make them popular with a broader range of people, and will just keep law 'enforcement' off their backs. It always boggles my mind when people are so surprised that an animal rights corporation does something that seemingly contradicts their mere existence. <br><br>As an anarchist, I don't believe any of these big businesses are our savior. A politician is just as worthless as the one that came before, a CEO just as corrupt as her peers. You're correct in saying that this is a culture war, but let's not forget about the class war, too. There are plenty of vegan capitalists running around, and to that end, they will always support the government in hopes of securing their comfy position. No capitalist with a lot of money wants to think about potentially NOT having a lot of money. By the way, does anyone know what Ingrid Newkirk's salary actually is? <br><br>My point is this: forget about PETA. Forget about HSUS. Support them as much as you personally believe is possible, for you, but don't stop supporting smaller, grassroots organizations. Don't stop supporting collectives, and worker-owned businesses. Don't stop doing everything you possibly can to end oppression and injustice, whatever that may mean to you.<br><br>Don't stop fighting. This nightmare is not sustainable. It will end, but not without a bitter struggle. Remember that all movements are connected and try to have some solidarity with all fellow activists. The power belongs to the people!<br><br>- lantz. Thanks for another excellent article, Will. Superbly written and thought provoking, as always. It's almost bizarre just how far this thing has gone. The degree to which history is repeating itself almost makes me feel as if I'm in a television show, Truman Show style, and everyone is laughing as I walk around uber-confused. I'm not laughing.

HSUS made a bad move. But we must understand: corporations are corporations; they do things that make them look good, that will make them popular with a broader range of people, and will just keep law 'enforcement' off their backs. It always boggles my mind when people are so surprised that an animal rights corporation does something that seemingly contradicts their mere existence.

As an anarchist, I don't believe any of these big businesses are our savior. A politician is just as worthless as the one that came before, a CEO just as corrupt as her peers. You're correct in saying that this is a culture war, but let's not forget about the class war, too. There are plenty of vegan capitalists running around, and to that end, they will always support the government in hopes of securing their comfy position. No capitalist with a lot of money wants to think about potentially NOT having a lot of money. By the way, does anyone know what Ingrid Newkirk's salary actually is?

My point is this: forget about PETA. Forget about HSUS. Support them as much as you personally believe is possible, for you, but don't stop supporting smaller, grassroots organizations. Don't stop supporting collectives, and worker-owned businesses. Don't stop doing everything you possibly can to end oppression and injustice, whatever that may mean to you.

Don't stop fighting. This nightmare is not sustainable. It will end, but not without a bitter struggle. Remember that all movements are connected and try to have some solidarity with all fellow activists. The power belongs to the people!

- lantz.

]]> By: The SHAC Model: A Critical Assessment « People’s Informative http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/#comment-217321 The SHAC Model: A Critical Assessment « People’s Informative Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:58:06 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=540#comment-217321 [...] HSUS have gone so far as to laud the FBI for cracking down on animal liberation efforts. In 2008, HSUS ostentatiously offered a $2500 reward to anyone providing information leading to the conviction of persons involved with an arson alleged [...] [...] HSUS have gone so far as to laud the FBI for cracking down on animal liberation efforts. In 2008, HSUS ostentatiously offered a $2500 reward to anyone providing information leading to the conviction of persons involved with an arson alleged [...]

]]> By: easyVegan.info » Blog Archive » easyVegan Link Sanctuary, 2008-08-11 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/#comment-186503 easyVegan.info » Blog Archive » easyVegan Link Sanctuary, 2008-08-11 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:15:45 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=540#comment-186503 [...] Green is the New Red: Humane Society Donates Money to “Eco-Terrorism” Witch Hunt, But Not Enough... The Humane Society of the United States has offered $2,500 to the “eco-terrorism” witch hunt in California. [...] [...] Green is the New Red: Humane Society Donates Money to “Eco-Terrorism” Witch Hunt, But Not Enough… The Humane Society of the United States has offered $2,500 to the “eco-terrorism” witch hunt in California. [...]

]]> By: Will Potter http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/#comment-168739 Will Potter Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:38:59 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=540#comment-168739 Thanks Tracy! I'll have something up later in the week. Thanks Tracy! I’ll have something up later in the week.

]]> By: Tracy http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/#comment-168727 Tracy Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:13:05 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=540#comment-168727 Pacelle defends the reward money: http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2008/09/nonviolence.html My blog post about his post: http://diggingthroughthedirt.blogspot.com/2008/09/hsus-defends-reward-in-firebombings.html Pacelle shares readers' comments about his post. Of course, not mine or any others that disagree with what the HSUS did: http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2008/09/nonviolence2.html?cid=129710342#comments Pacelle defends the reward money:
http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2008/09/nonviolence.html

My blog post about his post:
http://diggingthroughthedirt.blogspot.com/2008/09/hsus-defends-reward-in-firebombings.html

Pacelle shares readers’ comments about his post. Of course, not mine or any others that disagree with what the HSUS did:
http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2008/09/nonviolence2.html?cid=129710342#comments

]]> By: chris http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/hsus-green-scare-donation/540/#comment-166415 chris Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:02:07 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=540#comment-166415 I understand the need for a legal organization to distance themselves from illegal activities as to not be lumped together, but donating funds to the "eco-terrorist hunt" is ridiculous. I understand the need for a legal organization to distance themselves from illegal activities as to not be lumped together, but donating funds to the “eco-terrorist hunt” is ridiculous.

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