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	<title>Comments on: Seeing the Green Scare as a Cultural or Religious War</title>
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		<title>By: sbaer</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/green-scare-culture-war/94/comment-page-1/#comment-234374</link>
		<dc:creator>sbaer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The parallels between the rise of the Third Reich of Nazi Germany, wherein systematic blaming (propaganda) and elimination of Rights (creation of exclusionary laws) for certain groups of people eventually led to people being considered vermin, sounds terribly like what is beginning to happen to animal advocates and environmentalists. Some of my family survived Nazi Germany.&lt;br&gt;I can not urge you strongly enough to look at history so you understand how to peacefully stop this growing wave of anti-compassionate sentiment towards people who care about the natural world that is beginning to engulf this country. &lt;br&gt;I can not urge you strongly enough to address the public&#039;s conscience through talking to neighbors, speaking out, writing, politic&#039;ing, ... to reverse the growing wave of intolerance, to reverse the incarceration of advocates who stood firm on the legal side of the line in their peaceful conviction to protect animals and the environment, to reverse the movement of the line of law that crossed over them, to bring the line of law back to a place where compassion is not a crime.&lt;br&gt;These are the times that tea parties are about.&lt;br&gt;Recalling a phrase, &lt;br&gt;&quot;If you are not concerned; you are not listening.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parallels between the rise of the Third Reich of Nazi Germany, wherein systematic blaming (propaganda) and elimination of Rights (creation of exclusionary laws) for certain groups of people eventually led to people being considered vermin, sounds terribly like what is beginning to happen to animal advocates and environmentalists. Some of my family survived Nazi Germany.<br />I can not urge you strongly enough to look at history so you understand how to peacefully stop this growing wave of anti-compassionate sentiment towards people who care about the natural world that is beginning to engulf this country. <br />I can not urge you strongly enough to address the public&#39;s conscience through talking to neighbors, speaking out, writing, politic&#39;ing, &#8230; to reverse the growing wave of intolerance, to reverse the incarceration of advocates who stood firm on the legal side of the line in their peaceful conviction to protect animals and the environment, to reverse the movement of the line of law that crossed over them, to bring the line of law back to a place where compassion is not a crime.<br />These are the times that tea parties are about.<br />Recalling a phrase, <br />&#8220;If you are not concerned; you are not listening.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Handlin</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/green-scare-culture-war/94/comment-page-1/#comment-164601</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley Handlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;    Animal rights terrorists are often cast as “extremists” who take “too far” the allegedly benevolent cause of animal rights. But… the terrorists’ inhuman tactics are an embodiment of the movement’s inhuman cause.

    …While these terrorists should be condemned and imprisoned, that is not enough. We must wage a principled, intellectual war against the very notion of animal rights; we must condemn it as logically false and morally repugnant. &quot;

Now that&#039;s sickening. The whole religious belief that &#039;God put animals on the earth for our use&#039; is completely inaccurate. If one were to follow a religion as it should, they probably wouldn&#039;t be eating animal products at all. Animals are God&#039;s creatures, to disrespect them is to disrespect God. Disrespect can be taken in a few directions - not letting them live as they would without our interference (example - letting them roam a farm vs. confining them in cages) or eating them at all. I take the second route, but I feel that the first route is much more doable for most people. If you&#039;re gonna eat animal products, you better buy it from a local farmer that lets his animals live as they should rather than confine them until he kills them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;    Animal rights terrorists are often cast as “extremists” who take “too far” the allegedly benevolent cause of animal rights. But… the terrorists’ inhuman tactics are an embodiment of the movement’s inhuman cause.</p>
<p>    …While these terrorists should be condemned and imprisoned, that is not enough. We must wage a principled, intellectual war against the very notion of animal rights; we must condemn it as logically false and morally repugnant. &#8221;</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s sickening. The whole religious belief that &#8216;God put animals on the earth for our use&#8217; is completely inaccurate. If one were to follow a religion as it should, they probably wouldn&#8217;t be eating animal products at all. Animals are God&#8217;s creatures, to disrespect them is to disrespect God. Disrespect can be taken in a few directions &#8211; not letting them live as they would without our interference (example &#8211; letting them roam a farm vs. confining them in cages) or eating them at all. I take the second route, but I feel that the first route is much more doable for most people. If you&#8217;re gonna eat animal products, you better buy it from a local farmer that lets his animals live as they should rather than confine them until he kills them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bea Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/green-scare-culture-war/94/comment-page-1/#comment-151299</link>
		<dc:creator>Bea Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Please..... not a quote from the Any Rand Institute - now there might be a grand place to start looking for &quot;terrorists&quot;.
For health &amp; heart.... Go VEGAN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Please&#8230;.. not a quote from the Any Rand Institute &#8211; now there might be a grand place to start looking for &#8220;terrorists&#8221;.<br />
For health &amp; heart&#8230;. Go VEGAN!</p>
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		<title>By: No! Not the Vegan Potlucks! &#171; Off Our Pedestals</title>
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		<dc:creator>No! Not the Vegan Potlucks! &#171; Off Our Pedestals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hoot. And then perhaps you’ll become a true believer, convinced that this “War on Terrorism” is a culture war. After all, you must understand that tofu makes you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hoot. And then perhaps you’ll become a true believer, convinced that this “War on Terrorism” is a culture war. After all, you must understand that tofu makes you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sbaer</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/green-scare-culture-war/94/comment-page-1/#comment-756</link>
		<dc:creator>sbaer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The parallels between the rise of the Third Reich of Nazi Germany, wherein systematic blaming (propaganda) and elimination of Rights (creation of exclusionary laws) for certain groups of people eventually led to people being considered vermin, sounds terribly like what is beginning to happen to animal advocates and environmentalists. Some of my family survived Nazi Germany.
I can not urge you strongly enough to look at history so you understand how to peacefully stop this growing wave of anti-compassionate sentiment towards people who care about the natural world that is beginning to engulf this country. 
I can not urge you strongly enough to address the public&#039;s conscience through talking to neighbors, speaking out, writing, politic&#039;ing, ... to reverse the growing wave of intolerance, to reverse the incarceration of advocates who stood firm on the legal side of the line in their peaceful conviction to protect animals and the environment, to reverse the movement of the line of law that crossed over them, to bring the line of law back to a place where compassion is not a crime.
These are the times that tea parties are about.
Recalling a phrase, 
&quot;If you are not concerned; you are not listening.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parallels between the rise of the Third Reich of Nazi Germany, wherein systematic blaming (propaganda) and elimination of Rights (creation of exclusionary laws) for certain groups of people eventually led to people being considered vermin, sounds terribly like what is beginning to happen to animal advocates and environmentalists. Some of my family survived Nazi Germany.<br />
I can not urge you strongly enough to look at history so you understand how to peacefully stop this growing wave of anti-compassionate sentiment towards people who care about the natural world that is beginning to engulf this country.<br />
I can not urge you strongly enough to address the public&#8217;s conscience through talking to neighbors, speaking out, writing, politic&#8217;ing, &#8230; to reverse the growing wave of intolerance, to reverse the incarceration of advocates who stood firm on the legal side of the line in their peaceful conviction to protect animals and the environment, to reverse the movement of the line of law that crossed over them, to bring the line of law back to a place where compassion is not a crime.<br />
These are the times that tea parties are about.<br />
Recalling a phrase,<br />
&#8220;If you are not concerned; you are not listening.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/green-scare-culture-war/94/comment-page-1/#comment-669</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peta doesnt care about the enviornment, all radical ANIMAL rights activists hate PETA. the arsons carried out by the ELF are carried out by small groups of people with cheap tools such as cans of gasoline, theyre not funded by a large conspiracy of activists, that would make it far too easy to track and arrest people. 

Terrorist is a far over used word. While some acts such as bombing a large number of innocent people to strike fear into the populous is terrorism, throughout history people have branded their political opponents terrorists. Those fighting with Ghandi for the independance of india were considered terrorists, but you would never hear someone today calling peace loving ghandi a terrorist. The actions of the ELF and ALF have a specific purpose, which is to do what they can to save the earth or to save animals. Whether you call them terrorists or heroes does not matter, their actions are no meant to instill fear into people, but to fight for their cause. 

I am a new yorker and to be honest, peter young liberating some minks, and planes flying into buildings are so incredibly different that it is sick to consider them at the same level. I would consider nazi groups and groups such as godhatesfags.com much more dangerous than animal rights activists because they have stated aims of eliminating whole groups of people, not trying to save this planet that human beings have been destroying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peta doesnt care about the enviornment, all radical ANIMAL rights activists hate PETA. the arsons carried out by the ELF are carried out by small groups of people with cheap tools such as cans of gasoline, theyre not funded by a large conspiracy of activists, that would make it far too easy to track and arrest people. </p>
<p>Terrorist is a far over used word. While some acts such as bombing a large number of innocent people to strike fear into the populous is terrorism, throughout history people have branded their political opponents terrorists. Those fighting with Ghandi for the independance of india were considered terrorists, but you would never hear someone today calling peace loving ghandi a terrorist. The actions of the ELF and ALF have a specific purpose, which is to do what they can to save the earth or to save animals. Whether you call them terrorists or heroes does not matter, their actions are no meant to instill fear into people, but to fight for their cause. </p>
<p>I am a new yorker and to be honest, peter young liberating some minks, and planes flying into buildings are so incredibly different that it is sick to consider them at the same level. I would consider nazi groups and groups such as godhatesfags.com much more dangerous than animal rights activists because they have stated aims of eliminating whole groups of people, not trying to save this planet that human beings have been destroying.</p>
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		<title>By: truth</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/green-scare-culture-war/94/comment-page-1/#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is but the fact that the ELF is nothing more than a mafia of organized arsonists, and the members of Peta fund their arson. Thus, they are terrorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is but the fact that the ELF is nothing more than a mafia of organized arsonists, and the members of Peta fund their arson. Thus, they are terrorists.</p>
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