Comments on: Head of Center for Consumer Freedom Called a “Despicable Man” by His Own Son http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:05:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Juniper http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/comment-page-1/#comment-234423 Juniper Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:48:30 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=948#comment-234423 I would think that his quitting music to help means he wants to focus his efforts on doing something more directly effective. Not to mention, he's already got the fame, having lead that band for the past twenty or so years. I would think that his quitting music to help means he wants to focus his efforts on doing something more directly effective. Not to mention, he's already got the fame, having lead that band for the past twenty or so years.

]]> By: We meat lovers are so screwed | ZDNet Healthcare | ZDNet.com http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/comment-page-1/#comment-210375 We meat lovers are so screwed | ZDNet Healthcare | ZDNet.com Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:19:00 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=948#comment-210375 [...] son considers him “despicable” and liberals have an entire Web site devoted to attacking him. But if your idea of a good [...] [...] son considers him “despicable” and liberals have an entire Web site devoted to attacking him. But if your idea of a good [...]

]]> By: anon http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/comment-page-1/#comment-198601 anon Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:20:11 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=948#comment-198601 First off, I'd like to thank Will for coming to speak in Minneapolis, there need to be more open dialogues on these matters. This story is so unbelievable, especially since I've been a huge fan for ten years. It shows just how close these "evil" people are to people we know and love. I recommend Berman's book Actual Air, to everyone. It is a good example of Berman's talent as a writer, and how he might prove a more able muckraker/etc. than we've seen before. First off, I’d like to thank Will for coming to speak in Minneapolis, there need to be more open dialogues on these matters.
This story is so unbelievable, especially since I’ve been a huge fan for ten years. It shows just how close these “evil” people are to people we know and love. I recommend Berman’s book Actual Air, to everyone. It is a good example of Berman’s talent as a writer, and how he might prove a more able muckraker/etc. than we’ve seen before.

]]> By: Netanya http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/comment-page-1/#comment-194320 Netanya Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:31:18 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=948#comment-194320 Oh heck, I luv the Silver Jews. Had no idea David was this monster's son. Poor guy. But, hope he doesn't give up music on account of his father's failure to have a heart of compassion for the most vulnerable, and probably the most deserving among us, the creatures of our planet. Oh heck, I luv the Silver Jews. Had no idea David was this monster’s son. Poor guy. But, hope he doesn’t give up music on account of his father’s failure to have a heart of compassion for the most vulnerable, and probably the most deserving among us, the creatures of our planet.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/comment-page-1/#comment-192389 Stephen Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:01:50 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=948#comment-192389 I'll admit he is good at what he does, call it spin, or deception, or manipulation. There has been rubuttal, counter-rebutall, and counter-counter-rebuttal of this. Start here for those to whom this is new: http://www.peta.org/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5260 I’ll admit he is good at what he does, call it spin, or deception, or manipulation. There has been rubuttal, counter-rebutall, and counter-counter-rebuttal of this.
Start here for those to whom this is new: http://www.peta.org/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5260

]]> By: Joe http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/comment-page-1/#comment-192361 Joe Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:52:48 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=948#comment-192361 Like him or not you have to agree his website www.petakillsanimals.com is spot on about PETA's hypocrisy. Like him or not you have to agree his website http://www.petakillsanimals.com is spot on about PETA’s hypocrisy.

]]> By: Mark Hawthorne http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/comment-page-1/#comment-192237 Mark Hawthorne Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:42:22 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=948#comment-192237 There's an interesting article on the Mother Jones site that explores CCF: http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2009/01/cass-sunstein-animal-rights-radical.html There’s an interesting article on the Mother Jones site that explores CCF: http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2009/01/cass-sunstein-animal-rights-radical.html

]]> By: Will Potter http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/comment-page-1/#comment-191612 Will Potter Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:56:07 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=948#comment-191612 "The good that you do is good, that is all, it is not good to counter the evil of the man who raised you. It is just good. And the evil that your fatehr does is his evil, not yours." Very well said, Antoine. “The good that you do is good, that is all, it is not good to counter the evil of the man who raised you.
It is just good. And the evil that your fatehr does is his evil, not yours.”

Very well said, Antoine.

]]> By: Antoine http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/comment-page-1/#comment-191598 Antoine Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:36:21 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=948#comment-191598 The crimes of the father. If David Berman is reading, this I wish to tell you that you hold no responsibility for your father's evil. And it should not be on your shoudlers to fix his wrongs. You are a person like any other and you exist on your own merits. The good that you do is good, that is all, it is not good to counter the evil of the man who raised you. It is just good. And the evil that your fatehr does is his evil, not yours. Because if you are somehow meant to counter his acts, then your task becomes too daunting. It is hard to go against one's father and to recognize what you recognize, and at least in my eyes you are already a hero for that alone. If you are ever in Toronto you will be welcome within the animal rights community. Stay the course. Do what you love. Your father is alone responsible for his actions. The crimes of the father.
If David Berman is reading, this I wish to tell you that you hold no responsibility for your father’s evil. And it should not be on your shoudlers to fix his wrongs. You are a person like any other and you exist on your own merits.
The good that you do is good, that is all, it is not good to counter the evil of the man who raised you.
It is just good.
And the evil that your fatehr does is his evil, not yours.
Because if you are somehow meant to counter his acts, then your task becomes too daunting.
It is hard to go against one’s father and to recognize what you recognize, and at least in my eyes you are already a hero for that alone.
If you are ever in Toronto you will be welcome within the animal rights community.
Stay the course. Do what you love. Your father is alone responsible for his actions.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/center-for-consumer-founder-rick-berman-called-despicable-by-son/948/comment-page-1/#comment-191565 Anonymous Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:56:26 +0000 http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/?p=948#comment-191565 Considering that the majority of music is completely mired in the capitalism, it's likely that he saw himself contributing to what his father was doing in the world. If he's going to find his own way to solve the problem, he should be able to do it on his terms, not someone else's. Considering that the majority of music is completely mired in the capitalism, it’s likely that he saw himself contributing to what his father was doing in the world. If he’s going to find his own way to solve the problem, he should be able to do it on his terms, not someone else’s.

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