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	<title>Comments on: FBI Arrests 4 Activists as &#8220;Terrorists&#8221; for Chalking Slogans, Leafleting and Protesting</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/aeta-arrests/1070/comment-page-1/#comment-232390</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is the trial?

I would say that animal rights protesters and their supporters seem to come dangerously close to treating animals as if they are equal to humans, but as they honestly seem to believe that I will take a different tack.

It has been said that these professors who practice vivisection ( a process I find cruel and unnecessary) deserve direct intimidation because of what they have done. So, taking the assumption that humans and animals are equal, suppose you were to have a chicken which developed the cruel and unusual habit of laying its eggs on the heads of whatever animal walked underneath it. (this is of course a free range chicken, so its doing so from on top of your hay bales) What do you do to it?
 booby trap the bale so that it explodes when it next tries its trick? Drop eggs on its head repeatedly until it gets the message?
 follow it around and point a gun at it? 
or just tell it off every time you catch it?

Were you to also keep a cat, which one day approached the hens and killed a brood of chicks. What do you do then?

bringing this back to the point, these arrests are quite possibly justified, but the declaration of these people as &quot;terrorists&quot; is misleading. However, protests hold no force unless the people who are being protested against feel they have something that is being threatened by these people, be it sales revenue or votes. But individuals who work at locations shouldn&#039;t be threatened; its not effective. It just reduces the value of the argument in they eyes of those being threatened.</description>
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<p>I would say that animal rights protesters and their supporters seem to come dangerously close to treating animals as if they are equal to humans, but as they honestly seem to believe that I will take a different tack.</p>
<p>It has been said that these professors who practice vivisection ( a process I find cruel and unnecessary) deserve direct intimidation because of what they have done. So, taking the assumption that humans and animals are equal, suppose you were to have a chicken which developed the cruel and unusual habit of laying its eggs on the heads of whatever animal walked underneath it. (this is of course a free range chicken, so its doing so from on top of your hay bales) What do you do to it?<br />
 booby trap the bale so that it explodes when it next tries its trick? Drop eggs on its head repeatedly until it gets the message?<br />
 follow it around and point a gun at it?<br />
or just tell it off every time you catch it?</p>
<p>Were you to also keep a cat, which one day approached the hens and killed a brood of chicks. What do you do then?</p>
<p>bringing this back to the point, these arrests are quite possibly justified, but the declaration of these people as &#8220;terrorists&#8221; is misleading. However, protests hold no force unless the people who are being protested against feel they have something that is being threatened by these people, be it sales revenue or votes. But individuals who work at locations shouldn&#8217;t be threatened; its not effective. It just reduces the value of the argument in they eyes of those being threatened.</p>
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		<title>By: Apocalyptopia</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/aeta-arrests/1070/comment-page-1/#comment-231064</link>
		<dc:creator>Apocalyptopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If publicizing names and addresses of people you don&#039;t like is criminal, wouldn&#039;t the FBI have gone after the anti-abortion movement more vigorously? Hell, I can think of 3 anti-abortion sites off the top of my head that not only list names and addresses of doctors, but the names and addresses of the schools their kids attend! 

Oh, wait... Trying to claim right-wing groups as terrorists (such as the leaked DHS memo earlier this year) gets the whole country up in arms. Can&#039;t have any of that. I guess they&#039;ll just stick with the groups that are guilty of nothing more than property damage and let the real murderers go about their business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If publicizing names and addresses of people you don&#8217;t like is criminal, wouldn&#8217;t the FBI have gone after the anti-abortion movement more vigorously? Hell, I can think of 3 anti-abortion sites off the top of my head that not only list names and addresses of doctors, but the names and addresses of the schools their kids attend! </p>
<p>Oh, wait&#8230; Trying to claim right-wing groups as terrorists (such as the leaked DHS memo earlier this year) gets the whole country up in arms. Can&#8217;t have any of that. I guess they&#8217;ll just stick with the groups that are guilty of nothing more than property damage and let the real murderers go about their business.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/aeta-arrests/1070/comment-page-1/#comment-230348</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should say sorry and clean up their own meses.</description>
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		<title>By: Flu-Bird</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/aeta-arrests/1070/comment-page-1/#comment-230107</link>
		<dc:creator>Flu-Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make them clean up the messes they make and they should pay for the clean up as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make them clean up the messes they make and they should pay for the clean up as well</p>
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		<title>By: NEGOTIATION IS OVER! &#187; Pro-Test Was Kind Enough to Provide a Directory of Vivisectors</title>
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		<dc:creator>NEGOTIATION IS OVER! &#187; Pro-Test Was Kind Enough to Provide a Directory of Vivisectors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] against nonhuman animals. While vivisectors present themselves as victims (perhaps because someone chalks their name on a sidewalk or calls them a “killer” after they do in fact kill); in truth they [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] against nonhuman animals. While vivisectors present themselves as victims (perhaps because someone chalks their name on a sidewalk or calls them a “killer” after they do in fact kill); in truth they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Crayonla Terrorism, Vick Fights Eagles, and SolarRolls &#171; The Discerning Brute</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crayonla Terrorism, Vick Fights Eagles, and SolarRolls &#171; The Discerning Brute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] activities protected by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution &#8211; activities like writing slognas in chalk on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] activities protected by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution &#8211; activities like writing slognas in chalk on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/aeta-arrests/1070/comment-page-1/#comment-217546</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 06:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think vegans are all killers.  I hope all vegans stop murdering plants.  They keep eating plants like there&#039;s an infinite supply of living plants.  Eating plants is really killing this planet (so is farming crops/vegetables at any scale).  So please, stop murdering planets&#039; living organism.  Just because plants don&#039;t have brain, it doesn&#039;t mean there&#039;s no spirit driving their life.  You have no right to devalue their spiritual value.  So stop the massacre.  Stop the killing.  Stop harvesting.  Plants LIVING on earth are not yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think vegans are all killers.  I hope all vegans stop murdering plants.  They keep eating plants like there&#8217;s an infinite supply of living plants.  Eating plants is really killing this planet (so is farming crops/vegetables at any scale).  So please, stop murdering planets&#8217; living organism.  Just because plants don&#8217;t have brain, it doesn&#8217;t mean there&#8217;s no spirit driving their life.  You have no right to devalue their spiritual value.  So stop the massacre.  Stop the killing.  Stop harvesting.  Plants LIVING on earth are not yours.</p>
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		<title>By: 3 Definitions of Eco-terrorism &#171; Save Feral Human Habitat</title>
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		<dc:creator>3 Definitions of Eco-terrorism &#171; Save Feral Human Habitat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] happening. http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/epa-fugitives-not-labeled-eco-terrorists/1665/Check it out. I was down in Montana with the Buffalo Field Campaign when this act was introduced, and it sent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] happening. <a href="http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/epa-fugitives-not-labeled-eco-terrorists/1665/Check" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/epa-fugitives-not-labeled-eco-terrorists/1665/Check</a> it out. I was down in Montana with the Buffalo Field Campaign when this act was introduced, and it sent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PART 2: JAN-MAR 2009/KINSHIP CIRCLE UPDATES &#171; Kinship Circle&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>PART 2: JAN-MAR 2009/KINSHIP CIRCLE UPDATES &#171; Kinship Circle&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FBI Arrests 4 Activists as “Terrorists” for Chalking Slogans, Leafleting and Protesting http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/aeta-arrests/1070/ FBI arrests animal-rights protesters accused of UC harassment [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] FBI Arrests 4 Activists as “Terrorists” for Chalking Slogans, Leafleting and Protesting <a href="http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/aeta-arrests/1070/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/aeta-arrests/1070/</a> FBI arrests animal-rights protesters accused of UC harassment [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Understory &#187; Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss</title>
		<link>http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/aeta-arrests/1070/comment-page-1/#comment-207533</link>
		<dc:creator>The Understory &#187; Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can see the details of the case here, but the point being is that the federal government continues to marginalize and criminalize [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can see the details of the case here, but the point being is that the federal government continues to marginalize and criminalize [...]</p>
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